Getting beeped when you're not in the wrong

[LiE]

I'm sure this happens to all of us, very frustrating. It's becoming more common on a particular roundabout that I have to navigate daily. It's a simple roundabout, except further up the road it splits into 2 lanes. This was done a few years back. The issue is people now seem to think the entire road is 2 lanes and as such now use the right lane to go straight over as well. Me using the left lane to go straight over get beeped. This is because as I exit I position myself in the middle of the single lane ready to to go the right lane when it splits. This is seen as me cutting up the non-existent right lane.

The only thing I can do now is go faster to clear the car on the right.

Link to the roundabout street view - https://goo.gl/maps/1Xz3wi9WMf6KKC5W6

 

[LiE]

Wave and blow them a kiss. Drives them insane.

It's hard when they are behind you

A guy a few weeks back gave me a "ssssh" gesture when he saw me glaring at him because he was being a rude ****. First time I've seen that, wasn't sure what to make of it.

Edit: Also, it's MK. You would have thought people would know how to take roundabouts in MK given there's roughly a million of them

You'd think so, but my god some many clueless drivers.

 

[LiE]

Devils advocate, but what makes you think there are two lanes entering the roundabout but only 1 exiting it? The width, shape and (lack of) markings on the road look pretty much the same on both entry and exit.

I think that is the crux of the issue, because they are wide enough for 2 cars then people see this as fair game. The road doesn't split into 2 lanes until further up, there is no markings to show 2 lanes until then.

No one tries it on the other exits, it's only because this splits further up.

 

[LiE]

Quite a few of the roundabouts in MK need this, mostly the ones where the lane layouts are different from the standard. Even then I swear some people are so clueless it probably wouldn't help.

The Kingston roundabout is the worst, people have no idea.

 

[LiE]

so this seems to happen to you a lot then.

Nah. Today's incident was actually my wife.

 

[LiE]

Are you saying you take the red line and the blue line drivers are the ones annoyed with you?

If so is there a particular reason why your taking the red line? Personally if I knew I was turning right or needing to be the in right lane just the other side of a roundabout and it was a 2 lanes in I would always attempt to use the right lane.
Purely so that no one could be to my right on exiting.

Because the exit is only 1 lane. It's not 2 until further up.

Same as if you approached the opposite side, except that is marked properly.

 

[LiE]

I can think of a couple of roads like this where there is some sort of common understanding that they effectively become 2 lanes during rush hour/slow traffic, regardless of road markings. Quite nice to see actually.

Can you not just navigate it in the RH lane if everyone else is?

I don't want to become part of the problem and also have to dodge cars in the left lane.

 

[LiE]

I just past my test living in oxford but I will have to go to MK often for work, can't say I'm looking forward to that first couple of trips with all those roundabouts at rush hour

It's fine, you just have to put your car into launch control mode so you can get into the gaps in the roundabout traffic.

 

[LiE]

BEEP!

touché

 

[LiE]

I don't think the driver on the right thinks he is carrying out an overtake so they wouldn't be driving like they are overtaking, they simply think that the right lane is straight over as well.

 

[LiE]

I agree they probably don't think they are. But if the road is a single lane and two cars are driving side by side its about the only logical conclusion to the situation with our road laws.
There is either one lane or two. If its one, they are overtaking, if its two then the car to the left is changing lanes.

It's definitely one lane, I had a closer look today as a passenger and you'd only just squeeze 2 cars on the exit and only if the left car was quiet close to the kerb.

 

[LiE]

Video from today. Not sure how people think 2 cars can safely exit at the same time. I had to brake to prevent a collision.

 

[LiE]

Does look very tight, the roundabout is wide enough for 2 lanes, the exit is only just about agree.
Its really a merge then. (Because a car could be coming from the turn right of where you join, going 3/4 of the way round. They would arguably have priority since they would already be on the roundabout when you joined if you go to the exit at the same time. Although these tend to be no one is actually specifically given right of way.

It's tight to the point where if you both were side by side there would be car damage. I wonder how the insurance would see that.

I think the biggest issue is there is literally nothing on the road or roundabout to suggest you can use the right lane to go straight ahead, so why people do it and then everyone else has to make way for them just annoys me. The silver car ahead entered that road in what I would see as the normal road position, however they would be beeped if they did that and there was a car in the right lane thinking you'd just come into their "lane", even though there is only 1 lane.

 

[LiE]

If there are two lanes on the entry then unless marked otherwise both lanes can be straight ahead. However if there is not enough room on the exit they would be better having the hatched areas (from both lanes) making it clear its one lane on exit so merging is needed. The main issue seems to be terrible worn out road markings, something councils try to save money on.

Is that official road rules? I've never heard of that before. My understanding is that if there are no road markings you default to the standard roundabout rules - left lane for left and straight on, and right lane for right.

The roundabout coming back the other way is marked correctly (image in the OP). I think I'm going to contact the council to get them to put some marking down, why they have done why approach and not the other is strange.

 

[LiE]

I got beeped at yesterday evening by a WHITE VAN MAN!

At a set of lights, two lanes curves round to the right and remains two lanes. Not wide lanes either and there's a large lorry with trailer approaching on my left as the light turn green. I could boot it past and join lane 1 but choose not to and instead take caution and wait for the lorry to pass the bend as he needs considerable space to navigate the bend with his trailer attached. The WHITE VAN MAN behind me beeps, not a short beep, but a long beep. My passengers are equally as confused...

The lorry driver successfully completes the move and gets in lane. He signals his lights to say thanks. The WHITE VAN MAN still behind me. I then decided I wasn't going to be a part of his politics and booted it into the sunset

Consider this, even if I did pass the lorry first and merge in, the WHITE VAN MAN would not have been in a position to accelerate quick enough to pass the lorry taking the bend so would have caused a commotion. I did him a favour tbh.

Oh well.

I don't know why I all capsed WHITE VAN MAN, kind of committed the first time so stuck with it

You impeded his ability to do 100mph everywhere, this is in the white van mans mind the most serious of grievances.

 

[LiE]

Someone oncoming slammed on their brakes and laid on the horn at me for overtaking a cyclist on my side of the road when there was tonnes of space to do so before the oncoming car... Might have been necessary if I were driving a Reliant Kitten but not a T5 Volvo...

Yea but from the front it just looks like an old man Volvo barge

 

[LiE]

None of the Volvos of that era are slow though. They all have 5 cylinder turbo engines, ranging from 180 to 300hp

oh I know, I had a 2.4 T5 running 323bhp, but Joe public will have no idea about these things

 

[LiE]

Although that means you were undertaking, which is illegal is it not?

In any case, I think you should have slowed down because you were merging.

Undertaking is the act of moving to the left lane to pass a car on the left. If you're already in a lane and are going faster than the car on the right that isn't undertaking.

I'm not convinced it's merge when someone is in the wrong lane, technically they are cutting into my lane.

 

[LiE]

Your view is correct. There’s nothing I can see on the road markings that would allow the left lane to go into the middle lane. Those 2 lanes are for the right lane. We have a similar roundabout here and I’m forever being cut up by people going from the left lane (straight on only) not my lane (straight on and right).