Getting beeped when you're not in the wrong

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Someone oncoming slammed on their brakes and laid on the horn at me for overtaking a cyclist on my side of the road when there was tonnes of space to do so before the oncoming car... Might have been necessary if I were driving a Reliant Kitten but not a T5 Volvo...

Yea but from the front it just looks like an old man Volvo barge :p
 
None of the Volvos of that era are slow though. They all have 5 cylinder turbo engines, ranging from 180 to 300hp :p

oh I know, I had a 2.4 T5 running 323bhp, but Joe public will have no idea about these things :D
 
oh I know, I had a 2.4 T5 running 323bhp, but Joe public will have no idea about these things :D
Nice. :)

Mine is going hopefully today to be replaced with a Lexus barge, but I definitely want a 2.4 T5 in future. (mine is a 2.3 T5 with around 300HP)
 
very few roads around here, a10 included, where you can overtake a cyclist without crossing road centre, and ability of oncoming drivers to estimate where they will intercept/overtake a cyclist is poor, usually put on the side/headlights temporarily 300m out, to remind them I am here and they need to get it together/decide -
if they're having to break the NSL to do it it's PPP.
this morning, me, victim on bike - 3abreast close pass by local (signed) window cleaner van - mental note will never use him now.
 
this morning, me, victim on bike - 3abreast close pass by local (signed) window cleaner van - mental note will never use him now.

Ever thought about being considerate to other road users and not blocking the entire carriageway so faster vehicles can overtake safely?

You know as the highway code states.

Oh wait cyclists don't worry about the highway code unless they're the aggrieved party...
 
Ever thought about being considerate to other road users and not blocking the entire carriageway so faster vehicles can overtake safely?

You know as the highway code states.

Oh wait cyclists don't worry about the highway code unless they're the aggrieved party...

How was he blocking the entire carriageway if there was a three abreast close pass? If he was cycling in the middle of the lane that couldn't happen, which, funnily enough, is why I cycle in the middle of the lane if I think there's a risk of something like that happening, as per the advice of British Cycling and the local police. Mainly because a minority of road users don't know how to give the correct gap when overtaking, you know, as the highway code states.

https://www.cambs.police.uk/information-and-services/Road-safety/Op-velo
 
How was he blocking the entire carriageway if there was a three abreast close pass? If he was cycling in the middle of the lane that couldn't happen, which, funnily enough, is why I cycle in the middle of the lane if I think there's a risk of something like that happening, as per the advice of British Cycling and the local police. Mainly because a minority of road users don't know how to give the correct gap when overtaking, you know, as the highway code states.

https://www.cambs.police.uk/information-and-services/Road-safety/Op-velo
Surely 3 abreast means 3 bikes wide, I'd imagine that unless they're holding hands (possible with these crazy Lycra clad people:p) thats at least half of a single carriageway, not what I'd class as being a considerate road user.

Edit just reading that, they make it sound as if 1.5m is law, reading the code it says reasonable distance. I thought they'd been fining people for this which seems a bit dodgy if the only code doesn't give an actual figure.
 
Surely 3 abreast means 3 bikes wide, I'd imagine that unless they're holding hands (possible with these crazy Lycra clad people:p) thats at least half of a single carriageway, not what I'd class as being a considerate road user.

Edit just reading that, they make it sound as if 1.5m is law, reading the code it says reasonable distance. I thought they'd been fining people for this which seems a bit dodgy if the only code doesn't give an actual figure.

I thought by 3 abreast pass they meant: cyclist-van-car (2 in one direction, 1 in the other) rather than 3 cyclists next to eachother being overtaken, but happy to be corrected on that one
 
What's with all the weird measuring systems? 3 abreast? It's not 1902 any more! What next? "Oh yes! The van driver was 3 standard dishwasher widths away from me..." :D
 
I thought by 3 abreast pass they meant: cyclist-van-car (2 in one direction, 1 in the other) rather than 3 cyclists next to eachother being overtaken, but happy to be corrected on that one
it does indeed ;) it was the scenario Acme described taken to the point where the bike, vehicle(van) overtaking it, and the car in the opposite direction align
 
Except in my case we didn't align cos the dozy panic braking horn leaner was still half a mile up the damn road :p
 
What's with all the weird measuring systems? 3 abreast? It's not 1902 any more! What next? "Oh yes! The van driver was 3 standard dishwasher widths away from me..." :D
so you saw that pic on a gallery and have been dying to use it, I guess? because your post otherwise makes no sense. "abreast" isn't an old/archaic phrase or a measuring system.
 
The only thing I can do now is go faster to clear the car on the right.
Although that means you were undertaking, which is illegal is it not?

In any case, I think you should have slowed down because you were merging.
 
In any case, I think you should have slowed down because you were merging.
yes you really have to resign yourself to that .. and ask could I have seen him earlier and repositioned the car to avoid the bottleneck.

(3 abreast) in the spirit of beeping ... see I could get one for my bicyle Wallfire Bike Horn, Ultra Loud 5 Modes Cycling Horns Bike currently no bell just a rich vocabularly.

loved the language in the police operation velo advice
Even the smallest lapse in concentration means you could fail to see an unprotected person. At best this is scary; at worst a collision will injure or kill them
Remember just a nudge on an unprotected person can have serious or tragic consequences.
 
Although that means you were undertaking, which is illegal is it not?

In any case, I think you should have slowed down because you were merging.

Undertaking is the act of moving to the left lane to pass a car on the left. If you're already in a lane and are going faster than the car on the right that isn't undertaking.

I'm not convinced it's merge when someone is in the wrong lane, technically they are cutting into my lane.
 
I'm not convinced it's merge when someone is in the wrong lane, technically they are cutting into my lane.
From the pic he's moving into another lane so beepy mcbeepface has right of way so yeah, OP is cutting him up.

In any case, i wouldn't worry about a beep. We've all made mistakes, all mine because of road layouts and/or other drivers of course...:)
 
all mine because of road layouts

Beepers don't care about layout changes or road works though, you're automatically expected to be 100% at all times! But not them, they can avoid being totally on the ball everywhere :p
 
Undertaking is the act of moving to the left lane to pass a car on the left. If you're already in a lane and are going faster than the car on the right that isn't undertaking.

Partially correct - passing on the left without changing lanes is only allowed in congested conditions on motorways, in slow moving queuing traffic or when the undertaken vehicle is indicating to turn right:

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q891.htm

Rule 268 of the Highway Code states – do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake.

However, whilst there is no specific offence of overtaking on the left, if a driver undertook another vehicle, other than in the circumstances described above e.g. in the case of someone hogging lane 2 on a motorway, they may be prosecuted for careless driving.
 
only allowed in congested conditions

You're partially correct as well lol. You said only in congested situations. hat's not what the highway code says. Aside from congestion, if a car is hogging any lane to your right and you're maintaining a steady speed and you happen to pass them, you've done nothing wrong.
 
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