Getting into teaching... advice needed.

Joebob

Joebob

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Hi all,

I have over 10 years experience as an IT trainer, but for the past 18 months I have been teaching Level 3 IT to 16-18yr old apprentices. Anyway, I have been considering for some time moving into teaching Computer Science or ICT in schools.

Currently PTLLS is my only teaching qualification, but would like to complete my DTLLS (or latest equiv qual) and I'm hoping I will find a school/college/academy who will support me through that.

What I would really like information on though is the best place to register my CV online for teaching jobs, or if there are any specialist agencies etc?

Any help very much appreciated.

Thanks
 
Your best bet is registering on TES and then applying from there. There is a serious shortage of compsci teachers so you should be ok finding a place providing you can teach!

I would also recommend joining Computing At School - an organisation set up purely for the purpose of sharing good practice in Teaching Computing.

If there is anything else you would like to know, feel free to ask!
 
Thanks for the TES link, I just took a look.

I suppose I should have mentioned that I don't hold a degree. I have just been using the Live Chat feature on the Department of Education website and was advised that only independent schools or academies would employ me without a full teaching qualification and I can't get that without a degree.

This limits my potential career move somewhat!
 
If you can try and get onto a school experience program which allows to utilise go into school for 9 days which then gives access to a training course. I haven't got the exact details although I have had a fair few coke through my department
 
Just to update this thread, I landed myself a job as an IT Teacher with a Sixth Form College and they are going to put me through my Level 5 Diploma in Education and Training.

I start on 3rd October and I'm really looking forward to it :D
 
Joebob said:
Just to update this thread, I landed myself a job as an IT Teacher with a Sixth Form College and they are going to put me through my Level 5 Diploma in Education and Training.

I start on 3rd October and I'm really looking forward to it :D
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Would be interested to know how you did this.

I don't have a degree, the highest educational qualification I have is Level 3 (in ICT). I have significant experience working in the IT industry as a Consultant which does entail training sessions with small groups.

Cheers
 
ARION said:
Would be interested to know how you did this.

I don't have a degree, the highest educational qualification I have is Level 3 (in ICT). I have significant experience working in the IT industry as a Consultant which does entail training sessions with small groups.

Cheers
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It's much easier to get into the private sector than the public sector so and for the past couple of years I have been delivering Level 3 BTEC in IT to 16-18 year olds on apprenticeships - this went a long way to securing me my new position - plus there is a shortage of teachers at present, even more so of IT teachers!
 
You won't be able to get QTS without a degree.
But as you have found you can still teach but not in state schools.
Unfortunately the best you would be offered in academy school's would be unqualified teaching posts which come at a lower wage.

The reason a degree is a prerequisite to pgce QTS is because it's a masters level qualification and hence needs a degree to enter.
School direct is also pgce uni lead so you do the same course as core uni students.

I'm currently doing my school direct course. Not east at all.
There are 218 students this year, all have a degree or higher education. Unfortunately that's just how it is.
My uni also demands gcse maths and English or there is no chance even with a degree no matter your age! Many older students had to retake them (Inc me)

Stick with college age, the younger kids demand completely different skills and crap ton more paperwork.
I aim to teach in a college or uni one day
 
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Just to hijack this thread a little does anybody know the criteria required to get onto he schools direct (salaried) route?
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The same as PGCE core and school direct non Salaried.
Degree, gcse maths English.

I would suggest you don't do salaried unless you have experience teaching. It's full on from the get go and you still have the masters level uni work to do.

It helps if you have some school experience.

You will be asked to teach a short lesson at interview.
 
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Diagro said:
You won't be able to get QTS without a degree.
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That is how it should be really, especially if you're required to teach up to A Level.

If your highest qualification is an A Level equivalent then it is a bit dodgy to be teaching A Level students, especially those expected to get an A*.

Obviously people do have varying levels of professional experience but that isn't often going to be suitable as a non-grad IT guy will often simply have done some support work then followed some vendor certificates and concentrated on a particular area. Whereas someone teaching say computer science A Level needs to be able to teach the basics of a broad range of things from hardware, networking, algorithms, programing, logic/boolean algebra etc..etc..
 
dowie said:
That is how it should be really, especially if you're required to teach up to A Level.

If your highest qualification is an A Level equivalent then it is a bit dodgy to be teaching A Level students, especially those expected to get an A*.

Obviously people do have varying levels of professional experience but that isn't often going to be suitable as a non-grad IT guy will often simply have done some support work then followed some vendor certificates and concentrated on a particular area. Whereas someone teaching say computer science A Level needs to be able to teach the basics of a broad range of things from hardware, networking, algorithms, programing, logic/boolean algebra etc..etc..
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Yup the knowledge Base is high... struggling to get my head around it all and I start teaching soon !
 
Diagro said:
You won't be able to get QTS without a degree.
But as you have found you can still teach but not in state schools.
Unfortunately the best you would be offered in academy school's would be unqualified teaching posts which come at a lower wage.

The reason a degree is a prerequisite to pgce QTS is because it's a masters level qualification and hence needs a degree to enter.
School direct is also pgce uni lead so you do the same course as core uni students.

I'm currently doing my school direct course. Not east at all.
There are 218 students this year, all have a degree or higher education. Unfortunately that's just how it is.
My uni also demands gcse maths and English or there is no chance even with a degree no matter your age! Many older students had to retake them (Inc me)

Stick with college age, the younger kids demand completely different skills and crap ton more paperwork.
I aim to teach in a college or uni one day
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You can actually get QTLS but not QTS after doing the Level 5 Diploma in Education and Training and many state schools now accept this qualification for teaching 14 and above.

http://samebutdifferentsch.weebly.com/qts-vs-qtls.html

I hear you above sticking with college age though. I definitely don't want to teach any younger than 16 year olds.
 
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Yea there is QTLS, but most if not all primary and secondary schools wont hire with that.
in secondary your expected to teach year 7-13. (well here you are).

But FE which you plan on doing its perfect! I hope you enjoy it :D

Thankfully in Computer science the kids seem to like it and more engaged. i would not want to teach Maths or English...
 
Diagro said:
The same as PGCE core and school direct non Salaried.
Degree, gcse maths English.

I would suggest you don't do salaried unless you have experience teaching. It's full on from the get go and you still have the masters level uni work to do.

It helps if you have some school experience.

You will be asked to teach a short lesson at interview.
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Is there any other route that would allow me to not go jobless (or moneyless) - I need to keep up with my mortgage payments.

The only little experience (and I mean little) I have is at college level but I want to go into Primary.
 
Vanquish-Storm said:
Is there any other route that would allow me to not go jobless (or moneyless) - I need to keep up with my mortgage payments.

The only little experience (and I mean little) I have is at college level but I want to go into Primary.
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Depends on the subject have a loo at the avaliable burserarys avaliable.
For example I get 20k tax free to train
 
EVH said:
That is worrying tbh.
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In terms of what?
I have never been a memory person, I'm a resource person.

I can deliver the resources fine. Just don't expect me to remember them until I have used them for a long while.

I'm sure this is fine in teaching as it's all about planning, if you can plan your lesson in detail then you can deliverify the content.
 
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