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** GIBBO's GUIDE TO WHICH 290 SERIES CARD TO BUY!! **

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OK I am in the very fortunate position to have tested nearly every model of 290 series card that is on the planet and we also sell pretty much every model. So I can do this without being bias and it is on the basis of which card I would buy for myself, I am an avid benchmarker, gamer and miner, so I shall cover all this criteria in my guide to each card:-


AMD Reference 290/290X

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The good points are its built by AMD to their specifications, so there is zero corner cutting on components or 3rd parties thinking they know better, this card will perform. Some can also unlock and you can flash all models to the Asus 290X BIOS for some additional voltage should you need it, allowing greater overclocks for benchmarking. Hynix cards will clock higher by 100-200MHz on the memory on average, but are a rarity with only around 20% of reference cards using Hynix memory due to the fire Hynix had last year in their factory causing a shortage, so most reference cards are Elpida.

The bad points - It is loud and runs hot unless you have the fan set to noisy.

In short this card is great for benchmarkers as at 100% fan its cooler is one of the most powerful and it cools VRMs very well. It is also perfect for miners as well with two or three cards in a case, as they exhaust the hot air out.

Bad news these are now end of life, so the stock won't be around much longer on the 290's and then the 290X's shall also run out.

With an Asus BIOS you can expect 1150-1220MHz core overclocks and upto 6400MHz (Elpida) and 6800MHz (Hynix) memory clocks, upto being max possible, your mileage might vary. These clocks are for benchmarking, not gaming or 24/7 use, those should always be lower and lower voltage.

Mining Hash rate Hynix 290X - 875-950
Mining Hash rate Elpida 290X - 800-875

Mining Hash rate Hynix 290 - 850-925
Mining Hash rate Elpida 290 - 750-850
















Asus DC2 290/290X

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I have now tested this card, read my testing here:-
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18576594

In short one of the very best cooling solutions out there, for both raw power and very quiet as well, so top score for the cooling design.
Asus own PCB and mosfet pushed Elpida memory very well, seeing 6500MHz stable and core overclock was no different to a reference card at 1150-1200MHz.

An excellent card which could be perfect if you get one with Hynix memory for overclocking purposes.











Gigabyte WindForce OC 290/290X series

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Gigabyte WindForce cards always prove to be very popular and the cooler has a reputation of being both reasonably power yet quiet at the same time and this card does not disappoint on that front.

However Gigabyte have made a few mistakes with this card, first and foremost is they seem to have chosen to exclusively more or less use Elpida for their memory supplier, so expect poorer memory overclocks and thirdly their custom PCB uses different VRM's and voltage control can be limited unless you know how to unlock them.

So this card is great if your a gamer, who wants to game in near silence, the Gigabyte card will perform this task very well.

If however your a miner or benchmarker, then move along, these cards are not the best for mining and it is a very bad idea to mine with more than two of these cards in the same system as the coolers are not powerful enough to handle the heat output of 3 or more cards in close proximity, they loose cooling ability fast when positioned closely to each other. Benchmarking wise the Elpida memory will hold you back.

In short if your gaming, its one of the better choices, but avoid for mining or overclocking use.

Expect overclocks for benchmarking in the region of 1125-1175MHz for the core and upto 6400MHz on the memory.

Mining Hash rate 290X - 775-875
Mining Hash rate 290 - 750-850










HIS 290/290X X2 Series

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When I visited HIS nearly a year ago in Taiwan, my meeting went along the lines of please ditch the blue PCB in favour of black and start using black coolers/shrouds, to which they acknowledge.

So when I got the setup details for this card I cried a little inside, blue PCB and some kind of champaigne coloured shroud. :(

We expect it to perform and cool well in all areas, but are yet to test one, but the colour is real off putting, a big shame as I've being a fan of HIS for years and its an OcUK exclusive brand.

Stock ETA is unknown!















MSI 290/290X Gaming Series

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The MSI 290X is one of the best cards we've tested, its cooling solution looks superb and is incredibly quiet, the only downside is it lacks real cooling ability due to the fans simply being too quiet even at 100% fan speed. The included backplate does a great job and also looks great, though it does heatsoak and as such heats any other cards up that might be near it more so than a card without a backplate, so be aware of this if running crossfire or mining with more than two.

With the Asus 290X BIOS this card with fan at 100% which is still not that loud, about equal to 45% on the reference cooler will hit anywhere between 1175-1240MHz on the core and they will do 6600-6800MHz on the memory. All MSI 290X Gamers seem to be equipped with Hynix memory, good move! :)

The 290 is also a great clocker, but the BIOS is pretty poor, so max voltage and maximum overclock are limited on the 290 model because of this and as such expect 1150-1200MHz core for benchmarking and upto 6200MHz on the memory.

Even though these cards are a reference PCB, MSI have used a different VRM which does not seem quite as good as that found on AMD reference cards, but is by no means poor, as can be seen from the overclocks.

Where this cards excels, well the hint is in the name, its a truly superb card for gaming on, one or two in crossfire will give you a great experience and do so quietly with some stonking performance. This card really is a perfect choice for anyone gaming!

It is also a great miner, but do be aware with three things will get hot, as the backplates heatsoak, so for miners keep them far apart and aim for a maximum of two in a PC or three at most.

As already mentioned its a good benching card too, MSI done a top job! TOP PLAYER, TOP CHOICE!

Mining Hash rate 290X - 875-950
Mining Hash rate 290 - 825-925














Powercolor PCS+ 290/290X Series

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I can't comment too much on this one, I am yet to test it or hear any feedback, but the marketing spiel sounds good, the cooler certainly looks great with plenty of ability. Powercolor tend to stick with AMD spec and components so expect a solid all round card. I hope to test one in the near future at which time I shall report back. :)















Sapphire 290/290X Tri-X series

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In short the best card I've tested yet, why?
Its an AMD reference board with AMD components, so AMD VRM, AMD Direfet and Hynix memory. Sapphire have kept the PCB as AMD intended, so good on them!

The cooler is huge, this card is very long, were talking 7990 long, so make sure you can fit it in before buying one. The cooler is more powerful than any other cooler I've ever tested, it even beats the reference cooler at 100% fan by some margin, like 20c+ and the fans can push huge amounts of air if you set them to 80% or higher. OK its not as quiet as a WindForce or an MSI Gaming, but its damn close, but what it can do is outperform their coolers maximum ability by a good 15c+

As such the Sapphire Tri-X cards are perfect cards for overclockers, benchmarkers and miners. Its also a superb gaming card, but I'd say the MSI / Gigabyte are better suited as they cost less, take up less room and are a little quieter.

In my testing I was able to achieve 1260MHz core, WOW! :eek: and wait for it 7000MHz memory, I did not cherry picking, this was one card I took from stock and its a monster, but looking at reviews and feedback from owners, the overclocks look exceptional. Also Sapphire Trixx software allows upto +200mv which no doubt explains the huge overclock a little too. But even at such high clock speeds with the fan at 100% the cooler kept everything below 70c, even when mining. I've not seen any card cool this well with such clocks and big amounts of voltage.

Their 290 is also just as good, hitting 1250MHz area on core and 6600-6800MHz on the memory, Sapphire write really good BIOS's it seems as their cards clock so well and get superb mining hash rates.

Onto mining this is the only card which had no heat issues at all, even with three cards all closely next to each other mining away, infact the cooler was so good the hottest card got upto like 73c and the other two remained below 70c, that's a superb achievement.

Again Sapphire seem to be only using Hynix memory!

Hash rate 290X - 950-1000 :D
Hash rate 290 - 875-950

This is my favourite 290/290X card yet! :)















XFX Custom 290/290X series

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OK we don't sell XFX, that's another story, lets talk about their card! :)
What I will say I think this has to be one of the finest looking cards on the market, the black/chrome looks superb and I love the LED on the XFX logo, it is really smart.

Now the bad news, people are having issues with mining on these, feedback on mining forums is XFX are using not so good VRM's which can cause heat and poor performance issues. So a card to avoid if your mining.

Also you never see XFX break any world records or benchmarks, this again probably boils down to using poor VRM's.

As a gaming card it is fine, so certainly one to consider, especially with the superb looks, but if your mining or benchmarking, don't bother.

















I've being as fair as possible and I'd buy the cards depending on what my primary usage was, so:-
AMD Reference Cooler: Mining with two or three in an enclosed case or benchmarking.
Asus DC2: Let me confirm the memory overclock first, otherwise it would have to be for 3yr warranty, as if it clocks poor and due to its price I'd simply not buy it.
Gigabyte WindForce: Where low noise and near silence is a priority, along with gaming.
HIS X2: Quiet, good cooling, so mining and gaming, but damn aweful colour scheme.
MSI Gaming: Gaming and where low noise is important, also mining if only using 1 or 2 cards.
Powercolor: Yet to be tested!
Sapphire Tri-X: My favourite, perfect card for mining and benchmarking, pretty damn good for gaming too. To think they put this cooler on 280 and 270's too. :D
XFX: For looks, stunning card visually, but all the other cards I'd choose over this as looks are not a priority for me.














I hope this guide helps others when choosing and maybe gives you some valuable information to help with your buying decision whether it be from OcUK or anywhere else. Any questions feel free to ask and I shall update the thread with the Asus results next week. :)
 
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Now one for the 280x :).

The coolers are pretty much the same and the board partners using same approach, so the end conclusion is pretty much the same, with main difference being Asus are much better at 280's than they are at 290's, though Sapphire also have the best 280's still.

As here the MSI is best all rounder, with exceptional looks and value.

Gigabyte is quiet, but voltage locked, so poor for benching and mining.

XFX is useless for mining, terrible VRMs.

Powercolor, VTX and HIS all seem good too. :)
 
Gibbo - any idea when 290 tri-x will be available again ?

Plus a special deal as OcUK 290 of choice ... and I'll have two please - sounds like just what I'm after for crossfire.

Cheers

I think mid-end next week, shall see if I can do a special on it on pre-order only on Monday. :)
 
Great sum up.
Only couple small niggles concerning Asus sku's.
First one, their employed IR3550 mosfet package is in fact iterationaly newer and electrically better solution than older Ior DirectFet pac.
Second - I wouldn't judge on only one review that it's subpar clocker, cause i find plenty proper reviewers achieving decent ones:

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Obviously the biggest let down is Elpida vidmem chips as well as grossly unoptimized VRM1 cooling solution, which is even more choking vram oc capabilities.

To be honest those results are inline with what I said, good core clocks or certainly not bad as I said expect 1150-1200, but the memory is simply not that great and struggles to pass 6000Mhz, which is definitely linked to either their mosfet or VRM solution, AMD's is and was simply better. Maybe Asus can extract more with a BIOS update, but right now its not doing so great. Which is a shame because cards like the Asus 280X DC2TOP are epic clockers.

I mean come on, the MSI is hitting 6600-6800MHz and the Sapphire 6600-7000Mhz. So the Asus is poor in comparison and you can't blame that entirely on the Elpida, though it does not help.

My Asus 290X Reference is sitting here at home as we type with Elpida RAM at 920Mhz core and 6000MHz memory, mining clock speeds 24/7 (1100mv). For benching it can reach 1240MHz core and 6500MHz RAM with 100% fan, it can do 6600MHz but artifacts. So right now it does look like there mosfet package or un-optimized VRM's is not doing the card any favours. Its a poor show considering its quite a bit more expensive than the reference card and clocks worse.

I get my Asus 290X DC2 on Monday, I shall be giving it a good thrashing and reporting back here, but I want to see it at least match my Asus reference Elpida card or beat it.
 
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How about 290x Lightning? Any pre-insights (probably under NDA) or ETA?

I had a play with an Engineering prototype, this card hit 1240MHz core but was using less voltage than the Sapphire Tri-X at 1260MHz, so the Lightning with same voltage should match or beat it.

The Lightning too managed 7000MHz memory overclock.

The cooling solution like the Sapphires is huge, I'd say the MSI solution was able to match the Sapphire solution but with a little less noise.

A final production sample will hopefully do better, but in short the Lightning will be a match for the Sapphire Tri-X with a little less noise and will be more optimised for LN2 overclocking.

Of course what we shall do is give 8 Pack the Sapphire Tri-X card I've being playing with and a Lightning when they come in and he can do a showdown between the two.

As it would be interesting to see how AMD's own built PCB components compares to MSI's own attempt with overclocking in mind. I think a lot of people under-estimate how good the AMD OWN Design actually is.
 
Quoted for truth.

They only got the cooler wrong, unless your a bencher or miner that is. For quiet gaming its very poor.

Its obvious Sapphire realised this, take the AMD PCB and their components and don't change a thing!

Write a great BIOS, stick a huge cooler on it and the result is a very impressive package. :)
 
Which manufacturer do you get the most returns from due to the black screen issue, are you seeing a pattern ?

No pattern at all to be honest and the returns percentage wise are quite low.

The issue is that the 290 launch and continuation has being hugely successful for AMD, certainly one of the better launches in recent year. We at OcUK alone have sold thousands, so the UK sales numbers must be very impressive. Across the pond in the US they are completely sold out.

So yes whereas some suffer black screens there is no pattern to it.

I've probably tested over hundred 290 cards myself and the only time ive had a black screen is from trying to push the memory too hard overclock wise.
 
what about crossfire, would reference be the best choice due to dumping the heat outside the case

Zero space between cards - Forget it.
One space between cards - Reference is best or something like the Sapphire which has powerful fans.
Two space between cards - Pretty much all models are fine.
 
HI there

1-2 days on the regular 290, X version still awaiting ETA.

Here is that special PRE-ORDER ONLY price you guys wanted:-


# Sapphire Radeon R9 290 Tri-X "BF4 Edition" 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (11227-00-50G) @ £359.99 inc VAT

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AMD Radeon R9 290 is a new graphics card powered by the latest AMD Radeon™ R9 290 graphics-processing unit (GPU). 4GB of super-fast GDDR5 memory for the best gaming experience at the highest resolutions including 4k and incorporates AMD Eyefinity and TrueAudio technologies to enable expansive multi-display setups and more accurate environmental sounds. R9 290 also includes support for both DirectX® 11.2 and AMD's new Mantle application programming interface (API) for great handling of even the most-demanding PC games.

Specification:-
- Radeon R9 290
- GPU: Hawaii Pro
- Litecoin Hash Rate: 800-950
- Stream Processors: 2560
- Core Speed: 1000MHz
- Memory Speed: 5200Mhz
- Memory interface: 512-Bit
- Memory capacity: 4096MB GDDR5
- PCI-Express X16 lane required
- 600W or greater PSU required
- Power Connectors: 8-pin + 6-pin required
- Display Outputs: 2x Dual Link DVI, 1x HDMI, 1x DisplayPort
- Warranty: 2yr


Was [£389.99] Inc. VAT

Only £359.99 inc VAT.

ORDER NOW
 
Thanks Gibbo, am going to order a new rig with 3 of these for sat delivery :)

Will 3 of them in an open HAF XB case ok? 2 of them close together the other spaced..

Also, what PSU in stock would you reccomend to power 3 of these?

Many thanks :)
Each card should at least have a small space between them, about an inch, otherwise they could get too hot.
 
Excellent service as always Gibbo, thank you.

Wpuld the NZXT gold 1000w run 3 if/when I decide to add a 3rd later?

Probably pushing your luck to be honest. A superflower would, but no stock. :(

In that case I'd recommend the Seasonic 1250W we've just got in, on special offer, great PSU and will do it easily. :)
 
Good overview, very useful.

My Asus 290X DC2 is here, let thrashing commence, sorry testing. :D

Initial thoughts:-
Elpida RAM. :(
Cooler, OMG its huge and bloody epic at cooling and quiet, on parr with Tri-X cooler for sure, but quieter, very impressive.

Shall come back later with testing or in a few days as going to put it head to head against my own personal 290X Asus reference card with Elpida. :)
 
Hi there

Sapphire 290 Tri-X's have arrived, I shall hold the pre-order price until tomorrow and then place them also on THIS WEEK ONLY on Wednesday at a slightly higher price, so if you want one grab one in next 24hrs for best deal.

These cards OWN at gaming, mining and benchmarking, pretty much the best 290 you can buy with the MSI a close second. :)
 
My Asus 290X DC2 is here, let thrashing commence, sorry testing. :D

Initial thoughts:-
Elpida RAM. :(
Cooler, OMG its huge and bloody epic at cooling and quiet, on parr with Tri-X cooler for sure, but quieter, very impressive.

Shall come back later with testing or in a few days as going to put it head to head against my own personal 290X Asus reference card with Elpida. :)

A further update, I take back what I said, this card has Elpida memory but it is nearly matching Hynix for the overclock, so either the Asus mosfet memory controller is indeed better or Asus secretly bumped up the memory voltage compared to normal and maybe Elpida responds well to voltage.

Thankfully with time we can test this as this Asus card has hotwire function, so we can try adjusting memory voltage in hardware. ;)
 
Is there any way you can check the Sapphire 290's you have in stock? Looking to purchase a good few of these.

Tri-X cards so far have all being Hynix. We don't guarantee it though as I am not willing to open nearly 1000 graphics cards to check and install in a PC to run a memory checker on them making them second hand. :p
 
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