Global warm.. wait, what?

None, and I couldn't :D

Heck, even a 10 mile wide meteorite failed! It just killed every living thing, for a while.

If you put all the nukes we have and blow them in the same place - maybe it would push the earth out of orbit like Space 1999!
 
While the earth may be able to heal itself to a certain degree - I think we are pushing the boundries of how far it can heal itself.

What you really mean is how long it can sustain human life, the Earth will be here long after we have gone in much the same way as it was here long before us. Dominant species come and go, ask the dinosaurs, but the Earth continues.
 
Waits for the pro global warming morons to flock in and say "its we, the human race that is destroying the planet" nothing to do with the natural cycle of the sun......

Source please.

And so, it begins :D

On the forum, we have several members who are specialists on certain topics (most obviously Dolph on semi-religious subjects), and we find they are forced over and over to repeat their point to a never ending wave of adversaries.

As semi-pro waster once said:

It's mildly entertaining as long as you're not the person doing the arguing about it.

Enjoy, Nix ;)
 
The earth will be fine. The real question is, will we be? The earth, and life on it, will be here long after we have gone. As far as species go we are a tiny blimp when it comes to longevity so far.

A tiny blimp?!

I do agree with that - but as a tiny "blip" (sorry :P) we have managed to cause a fair amount of havok!

I would liken it to a papercut and a knife wound - you can easily heal yourself from a papercut - but you need some help with a knfie wound! Can't fix yourself!

I also stand by the thought of "Even if global warming is all crap, and everything is fine - Still would be a better to be more conscious about what we put out there, pumping out CO2 and chemicals might not affect the planet but it will effect us!"

Rich
 
What you really mean is how long it can sustain human life, the Earth will be here long after we have gone in much the same way as it was here long before us. Dominant species come and go, ask the dinosaurs, but the Earth continues.

Well then I mean heal itself in a way to support humanity then - dinosaurs went there own merry way, but we are a conscious species able to put a fair bit of effort prolong our stay in this universe and this planet.

Rich
 
So it turns out that the world might naturally be saving itself from our stupidity.
Aye, the planet is very good at looking after itself. Over the last 3bn years or so that life has been around, the Sun has got some 25% hotter, yet the Earth system has managed to regulate itself to maintain a relatively stable temperature in response to the warming Sun.

Massive bloom of algae visible from space - that would be quite a sight :)
Iron fertilisation has been tried several times. This is what it looks like:
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The yellow band shows the extent of a phytoplankton bloom following the first international iron fertilisation experiment in water south east of Australia.

As the article points out there is large potential for CO2 sequestration in this way - serious amounts could be taken out of the air with just dozens of bulk carriers. It would cost billions but at a first analysis it seems one of the cheaper ways to draw down carbon. There are side effects though, one serious one is caused by the large amounts of organic material falling to the deep ocean. As it decomposes it uses up all the oxygen and the bottom water becomes anoxic killing all the benthic forams.

Cause and effect - it might "trap" the C02 at the bottom of the sea, but it'll be eaten by sealife and eventually make it's way back into the enviroment.

Eventually is a very long time. Over any meaningful time scale carbon in the deep ocean is 'locked' away. During the glacial - interglacial cycles some 100ppm of CO2 is taken down to the deep ocean were it stays for 10s of thousands of years - a time scale far longer than the one time slug of anthropogenic CO2 emissions lasting only a few hundred.

To be honest I think that no matter what we do to the planet, it will always wreak its revenge and heal itself. Nature is far more powerful than humans could ever be after all.

For sure - the planet will be fine. It's human civilisation that's threatened.
 
For sure - the planet will be fine. It's human civilisation that's threatened.

Ah, it's nice that there are some other posters on here who aren't hiding behind ignorance. Good post clv101.

Enjoy, Nix ;)

Hehe. I wouldn't describe myself as anywhere near an 'expert'. I'm merely 'educated' to some degree regarding it. ;)

As for me requesting the source -- I've got a sneaking suspicion that he's commenting on that dubious documentary that Channel 4 made a while back.
 
Hehe. I wouldn't describe myself as anywhere near an 'expert'. I'm merely 'educated' to some degree regarding it. ;)
Well, there was a reason I said specialist rather than 'expert' :p

I would consider myself well educated on some topics, but certainly not an expert.

As for me requesting the source -- I've got a sneaking suspicion that he's commenting on that dubious documentary that Channel 4 made a while back.
Eww!
 
A tiny blimp?!

I do agree with that - but as a tiny "blip" (sorry :P) we have managed to cause a fair amount of havok!

I would liken it to a papercut and a knife wound - you can easily heal yourself from a papercut - but you need some help with a knfie wound! Can't fix yourself!

I meant blip, no idea how that "m" snuck in...

The havoc (sorry :P) we have caused is pretty much nothing on a planetary scale, much more damage has been done to eco-systems by meteorite strikes and huge volcanic eruptions then we have ever done. The planet and life on it will carry on quite happily regardless of what we throw at it for the brief period of time we are here for.
 
None, and I couldn't :D

Heck, even a 10 mile wide meteorite failed! It just killed every living thing, for a while.

Are you talking about the K/T boundary *possible* meteor strike? If so it didn't kill every living thing, just a huge proportion of it. Otherwise we wouldn't be here now.:p

And so, it begins :D

On the forum, we have several members who are specialists on certain topics (most obviously Dolph on semi-religious subjects), and we find they are forced over and over to repeat their point to a never ending wave of adversaries.

As semi-pro waster once said:



Enjoy, Nix ;)

I'm starting to think in threads like these we should put our speciallity down at the end of our posts, it would definately help in deciding who the whack jobs are.:D

For example Professional Geologist, well read biologist, conspiracy theorist or Professor in Climatology (you never know!:p)
 
I'm starting to think in threads like these we should put our speciallity down at the end of our posts, it would definately help in deciding who the whack jobs are.

For example Professional Geologist, well read biologist, conspiracy theorist or Professor in Climatology (you never know!:p)

Yeah, maybe that will work - MooMoo444 (Pr0 Gamer)
 
This appeared in New Scientist months ago. It concluded that more study needs to be done to see whether it is as effective as it is said to be, and how damaging it could be to the environment.
 
A tiny blimp?!

I do agree with that - but as a tiny "blip" (sorry :P) we have managed to cause a fair amount of havok!

I point this out rather often. If you're picking someone up on spelling or using the English Language, first make sure your post doing so is sound!

(look up 'havoc')
 
Professor in Climatology (you never know!:p)

Would be a waste of time 20 years ago these people were saying we were on the cusp of another iceage. They can't make there minds up and half of them will produce what ever findings pay best.

The human species will ultimately be a tiny blip in the history of the Earth, I don't think climate change (what ever happened to Global Warming?) will be what does for us as technology will find a solution but it is only a matter of time before we screw something up properly.

How we think we can control a system that we have limited understanding of that is as complex as that which controls the Earths climate I have no idea, especially given the overwhelming evidence that we can't even control a tiny human invention like the global economy.
 
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