GO Q6600 - Seems to easy?

Matlough

Matlough

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Just finished upgrading my system and have found that I can OC to 3.6 quite happily with only changing the FSB to 400.

As I'm using just the stock cooler, I am only running this in windows for a short time as my temps are about 65-68 at idle.

I have 2 questions (being new to OC)

1. Is it that easy to OC - I thought you would have to change things like Vcore & memory etc.?

2. What air cooler would you recommend for me to use this OC on a permanent basis (thinking about PRO 7 or T Tower)?
 
If you have DDR2 PC8500 (533Mhz) then for the RAM side of it, it really can be just about that easy, as the RAM is rated up to 533fsb anyway, so up til that speed, you dont have to overclock the RAM at all. Its one of the reasons I consider PC8500 a little bit too much money to spend unless you have a low multi chip, or are looking for an extreme overclock, as all PC6400 RAM is rated up to that 400fsb as well.
Voltages wise it really does vary from chip to chip, some will need hardly any extra voltage, while others need a lot.
You also have to take into account that until you've really bench stress tested the chip, you can't be certain whether it needs more voltage to prevent it going flaky after xx hours/minutes of 100% use.

Something like a Tuniq Tower with a fan would probably be a good bet if your case is large enough, although make sure you have good internal case cooling.
 
sounds like you've left all the volts on Auto, if you have, your computer has done all the overclocking for you, however, it is strongly recommended that you set the voltages yourself, as that way you can determine the absolute minimum you need for a stable overclock.

Also, its sounds as though you havn't tested for stability, which is the main part of overclocking. anyone can crank their overclock to something like 3.6+, but to run their computer at that speed, it needs to be stable, and cool. Which your isnt.

Go to the beginners guide to overclocking, a sticky at the top of this forum page, and read how to overclock properly. You risk damaging your computer if you simply just whack up the overclock without knowing what your doing
 
young said:
sounds like you've left all the volts on Auto, if you have, your computer has done all the overclocking for you, however, it is strongly recommended that you set the voltages yourself, as that way you can determine the absolute minimum you need for a stable overclock.

Also, its sounds as though you havn't tested for stability, which is the main part of overclocking. anyone can crank their overclock to something like 3.6+, but to run their computer at that speed, it needs to be stable, and cool. Which your isnt.

Go to the beginners guide to overclocking, a sticky at the top of this forum page, and read how to overclock properly. You risk damaging your computer if you simply just whack up the overclock without knowing what your doing
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When I OC'd to 2.6 I ran 2 Orthos for about 40 mins and temps were about 70ish.
I know that you have to test, I just found it strange that all I had to do was change the FSB.
I also need a good HSF before I test at anything like 3.6.
 
yeah, it really is that simple, but trust me, as soon as you start testing for stability and decent temperatures, it becomes a nightmare! it absorbs about a week at least of constant testing and restarts, making notes of configurations that work blah blah...
 
My E6600 is yet to become stable at 3.4Ghz, overclocking can be so much hassle and takes a lot of time. Good luck with that Q6600 though, get a cooler and have some fun :D.
 
Matlough said:
Just finished upgrading my system and have found that I can OC to 3.6 quite happily with only changing the FSB to 400.

As I'm using just the stock cooler, I am only running this in windows for a short time as my temps are about 65-68 at idle.

I have 2 questions (being new to OC)

1. Is it that easy to OC - I thought you would have to change things like Vcore & memory etc.?

2. What air cooler would you recommend for me to use this OC on a permanent basis (thinking about PRO 7 or T Tower)?
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1. Nope, its not that easy really. I changed Vcore to 1.475 and Vdimm to 2.2 for my Q6600 to run stable at 3.6 for 8 hour+ Prime95. Temps are 65 ish during load.

2. I believe T Tower and Thermalright extreme 120 are the best.

BR Anders
 
65 -68 C idle is insane my friend! Under load that will destroy your chip. You need a good HSF for even 3Ghz let alone 3.6Ghz! Get a tuniq 120 now and turn that clock down till u get a good HSF
 
Bikerz said:
65 -68 C idle is insane my friend! Under load that will destroy your chip. You need a good HSF for even 3Ghz let alone 3.6Ghz! Get a tuniq 120 now and turn that clock down till u get a good HSF
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I agree, an after market cooler would be a sensible choice.

Ideally those temps would be acceptable if under stress test load.

Reset your system back to stock settings until you have installed an after market cooler.

If your case can fit the Tuniq 120, as suggested, would be an ideal choice
 
Bikerz said:
65 -68 C idle is insane my friend! Under load that will destroy your chip. You need a good HSF for even 3Ghz let alone 3.6Ghz! Get a tuniq 120 now and turn that clock down till u get a good HSF
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My G0 used to Prime95 Load @ 65c is on the stock cooler @3.2ghz, upto 3.2ghz found i needed very little change to the vcore and therefore temps werent to bad.
 
Pneumonic said:
My G0 used to Prime95 Load @ 65c is on the stock cooler @3.2ghz, upto 3.2ghz found i needed very little change to the vcore and therefore temps werent to bad.
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Nice over clock by the way;), in this case as the OP points out he has not even run prime:eek:

Matlough said:
Just finished upgrading my system and have found that I can OC to 3.6 quite happily with only changing the FSB to 400.

As I'm using just the stock cooler, I am only running this in windows for a short time as my temps are about 65-68 at idle.
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Yup... needs to get into the BIOS and configure the O/C manually.. Found in both G0 systems I have setup that upto around 3.1/3.2ghz they need hardly any Vcore increase and you can run them nicely on the stock HS, assumming you have decent enough case airflow
 
I have a couple of questions regarding this seeing as I've recently just upgraded to a Q6600 on an MSI Neo2-FR.


1) My idle temps (having OCed to 3.0ghz) are like 28-30, but then CPU-Z is telling me my CPU speed if anywhere from 2.0ghz up to 3.0ghz at any one time. Is this some sort of power saving thing I should turn off? Having used Prime on all four cores for 30 minutes my temps go up to around 60-62 (although the heating was on in my room and it was ver hot, so I think it'll be lower once I stop the room getting so hot). How can you measure idle temps if the CPU is constantly lowering itself? Surely it'll be the same every time? Or is there something wrong with mine?

2) People say you should prime test for 8 hours to check for top stability. But really, when are you every likely to have the CPU running at 100% for 8 hours? In fact, when are you every likely to have the CPU running at over 50% for any decent length of time? It doesn't appear (to me at least) to be "real world testing", although I do understand it makes sense to be safe rather than sorry.

Cheers for any help
 
Pneumonic said:
Yup... needs to get into the BIOS and configure the O/C manually.. Found in both G0 systems I have setup that upto around 3.1/3.2ghz they need hardly any Vcore increase and you can run them nicely on the stock HS, assumming you have decent enough case airflow
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I am in total agreement with you. The OP can reduce his temps as you recommended by reducing Vcore.

But he know knows that his chip can give 3.6Ghz;) If he is happy to settle at 3.2 reducing Vcore would be the way forward:).

alternatively he wants that 3.6Ghz then the solution would be a after market cooler.

(Over clocking is a terrible disease:D)
 
timmymagic said:
I have a couple of questions regarding this seeing as I've recently just upgraded to a Q6600 on an MSI Neo2-FR.


1) My idle temps (having OCed to 3.0ghz) are like 28-30, but then CPU-Z is telling me my CPU speed if anywhere from 2.0ghz up to 3.0ghz at any one time. Is this some sort of power saving thing I should turn off? Having used Prime on all four cores for 30 minutes my temps go up to around 60-62 (although the heating was on in my room and it was ver hot, so I think it'll be lower once I stop the room getting so hot). How can you measure idle temps if the CPU is constantly lowering itself? Surely it'll be the same every time? Or is there something wrong with mine? Cheers for any help
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You will need to disable speed step in your Bios;)


timmymagic said:
2) People say you should prime test for 8 hours to check for top stability. But really, when are you every likely to have the CPU running at 100% for 8 hours? In fact, when are you every likely to have the CPU running at over 50% for any decent length of time? It doesn't appear (to me at least) to be "real world testing", although I do understand it makes sense to be safe rather than sorry.Cheers for any help
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Testing using prime ensures the system is stable following an over clock. The main purpose of this test is to confirm your PC is able to compute numbers (Iterations) (number crunching) correctly. If the system does not pass the stress test it is possible corruption can occur for example your operating system. crashing, hanging ect. Odd behavior is associated with system instability.
 
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timmymagic said:
People say you should prime test for 8 hours to check for top stability. But really, when are you every likely to have the CPU running at 100% for 8 hours? In fact, when are you every likely to have the CPU running at over 50% for any decent length of time? It doesn't appear (to me at least) to be "real world testing", although I do understand it makes sense to be safe rather than sorry.
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Agreed I am not one that subcribes to the "it MUST be 8 hours prime stable", as it would be extremely rare for that to occur... Have the brothers G0 clocked at 3.6ghz on slightly lower Vcore than it really needs to be 8 Hours prime stable (is stable for around 6 :P ) but keeps the temps at a more acceptable level and he has been running it for months with no problems.. Really is a matter of choice
 
Please, don't panic! - I know that I'm not to run OC'd with the stock HSF.
As I said
As I'm using just the stock cooler, I am only running this in windows for a short time as my temps are about 65-68 at idle.
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I was just interested to see how easy it was to OC.
I DO plan to get either the TT or the Arc PRO 7 BEFORE I get into running 6-8 hour tests.

Do you think the Switech H20 water cooling would do a better job than either of the 2 Air HSF?
 
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