Going back to AMD

[FatRakoon]

Quick run down on my PC useage as of late...

AMD Socket A
Progressed to 939 and then dual core through to Opteron Dual core.

Very very happy with it all

Buy an E6300 to see what hype is about, then an E6600 then E2180 and now my 2 main PCs are E9550 and Q6600... Nuff said.

Im considering going back to AMD... Not for any particular reason other than I just miss the fact that I truly am an AMD FanBoy at heart.

Now, big is the gap between AMD and intel these days?

What AMD CPU is comparable with what Intel?

 

[FatRakoon]

Hmmm..Id accept that.


Ok then, my No2 system is a Q6600, Its running at stock but is stable at 3.6.

My No1 is a 9450 ( Not a 9550 as I posted ) and thats also stock, but not tried clocking that... yet!

What AMD would be an equivalent of these?

I see no reason to go lower spec just for the sake of it being AMD, but lets be honest, the higher scale of PCs these days are just so ridiculously overpowered that even if they dropped in speed by 50% I doubt half of us would notice for a while... I suppose thats why Im not bothered to clock anywhere near as much as I used to.

 

[FatRakoon]

Wow, that's one of the stupidest things I've read on here.

WHY?

Its no different to someone who used to own a make of car and simply wanting to get that make again? - no different at all.

Whether its an Intel or an AMD, they dont do any particular job any better! - sure, some are faster than others but they still do the same job!

 

[FatRakoon]

Well you would see it that way at your age as it not very clever to point out the obvious and even more so when the OP has stated so.
If it gives him pleasure purely because its an AMD & no other factors im not going to put him down as he already knows the alternatives & don't need telling by anyone.

What a perfectly neutral answer.

Thank you.

Oh, and just for you to know, I have placed my order for the 9950 Black Edition, and coupled it with a Gigabyte DS3 Mobo ( I only opted for DS3 cos I love the DS3 775 Mobos, Im thinking thatt his will be as reliable as my DS3, S3, DS4 are )

I will sell off perhaps my E2180 setup to recoup the costs.

 

[FatRakoon]

Sure, why not!

Gigabyte GA MA770 DS3

I have the Socket 775 Gigabyte boards and while the S3/DS3 have the most useless NB Heatsink, I have been 100% happy with gigabyte boards on the 775 Platform, sure, there may well be better but you go with what you know I suppose?

I mean, going by a whoel different platform, it may very well be a mistake to go with it just because its got DS3 in the name, but at 50 notes, its worth the gamble... Especially since my Socket775 DS3 cost me 3 times that much back then!

But, Both board and Chip come to under 2 ton, and the rest of it is interchangeable with the rest of the junk, so I recon Ill be happy with it.

 

[FatRakoon]

Actually different cars have different feels and interior designs, this is a processor and they will all 'feel' the same.

If they all feel the same, then why was my earlier statement, in your own words "one of the stupidest things I've read on here" ?

Actually, IMO they dont at all feel the same.

Aslo FatRakoon, please post how you get on with it.

Will do mate... Im looking forward to it.

Ill run some benchies too!

 

[FatRakoon]

Well it might sound stupid to some but i have always been amd and it was a wrench going to intel but it did seem the best choice. Hope it works as well as you hope m8.

I have gone with AMD since the 386 DX/40

I once swapped my Slot A 600 for a Celeron 900 and whe nI asked for the Athlon back, the guys at the shop laughed me.

I have pretty much stuck with AMD since, and only a few times dipped my toes into Intel waters, but never owned one.

The simple facts is however, that I had my Opteron clocked to buggery and I was king of the hill and tried a stock C2D and it blew the nuts off my AMD, so moving to Intel was only a natural progression.

However, things are changing, AMD are now hot on the heels of Intel and the gap is closing every day, Intel are on *** verge of a 6 core CPU and AMD are on 12 FFS so, once AMD release that, Intel are going to lose out again ( All speculative hear say but... )

Well whatever then, I think it' stupid but fair enough.

And we are back to it being stupid again.

What is it with you and your trolling?
You are calling my choices stupid but you dont give a reason?

Surely no one should need to justify their choice of PC?

 

[FatRakoon]

Well yes, without competition we'd be in trouble.

Oh heck yes.

Its only competition, thats ensuring the prices are as low as they are

Without AMD, Intels CPUs would be double what they are, probably more
Without ATI, nVidia cards would be more expensive, and not just by a few £ either.

And so on...

 

[FatRakoon]

SNIP

Yes, I love nvidia purely based on when I bought my first Ti4200 ( Which I might add I still have and it still works )

Again, the differences are so minute half the time that it really is all down to whether you like the word ATI or NVIDIA and not the cards. or whether oyu like Intel or AMD ( To a point of course )

Personally, I like Cyrix CPUs and I actually have a Cyrix 800 somewhere I think ,and I have only kept hold of it purely because my favourite Mortal Kombat charactor is Cyrax and ist a similar name! - ( Actually its sub-zero but they never made a CPU with a similar name so... )

 

[FatRakoon]

Apparently so!

Im not really into clocking anywhere near as much as I used to be ( No need these days for me to do so as all new PCs are far faster than I truly need them to be! ) however, the news Im reading is that they jsut get better and better the higher up that ladder you go!

Quite honestly, while I was knocked for 6 when I went from my [email protected] to the Stock E6300 and the difference was shockingly vast, I also soon found out that Quad core is a pretty useless option at this time, and while the 9450 is certainly quicker than the Q6600 ( Not by as much as youd think though ) the difference between the Q6600 and the E6300 is very minimal indeed... In fact, I was actually upset that I even thought that upping from the E6300 to the Q6600 would be a big jump... This is why I then went for the 9450.

I have actually also got an E2180, and I got this purely as a stop-gap while I sold the Q6600 but me, doing my usual junk, kept hold if it.

Anyway, what I am saying is that the move from AMD to intel wa sa massive jump, but now, I am no longer finding the differences in the Core2Duo CPUs are lla that much, so, maybe the addition of an up to date AMD might be a worthy addition to my collection.

Please DONT get me wrong here... I am NOT moving back to AMD and lettign go of the Intel. I never once said that, I said from the start that the Phenom will be My No2 PC ( Unless of course I find it a better system to use than the 9450 )

I am lucky in that I have extended my home and have a whole Lan Room where I play my kids at computer games and I have 14 PCs - all are fairly respectable ( Although none are TOTR ) and so, I can do silly things like chop and change my favourite PC.

Sod it... Cyrix ***!!!!

 

[FatRakoon]

DILLIGAF

I dont give a FFF about AMD.

I loved my AMD PCs and I just want another, whats so wrong about that?

My slowest PC at this time, is my AMD 3500 and thats currently my 8 year old sons PC.
I will be getting rid of that, and moving my Q6600 to his slot and upgrading his PC at the same time.
As I have said a number of times now, my No1 PC is still my 9450, this is ONLY for my No2 and my No2 only ever gets used when Im on the LAN, playing against my mates or my kids and maybe their mates too!

 

[FatRakoon]

Agreed, although I say I dont, I do.

I just want to try out a Quad Core AMD, I see no problems in that, but I am being called stupid and getting knocked for the whole idea!!! - This I just cannot understand.

As EasyRider says, the car analogy fails, but in bringing another car example out, another way to look at things then, is to say that I can afford a BMW, but I drive a Ford Focus... I am also looking at a new car and I can still more than happily afford a much bigger, much faster car and yet, I am actually considering another Focus... There is absolutely nothign wrong with my current focus.

Now, this is what thousands of people do every day... There is no difference in that and me simply wanting to get an AMD instead of an Intel.

Now, if you think there is a difference, then Im all ears, but the fact is there simply is not.

I want an AMD and I have now bought one.

 

[FatRakoon]

Your a father and admit being a fanboy!

The mind boggles.

You really should know better and be setting an example.

Listen, I work hard, several years ago I had a massive bike accident and I should be dead, but I pulled through. I am now disabled and I dont let things gfet to me (Although they do ) I have little use of my legs and next to no use of my left arm & hand ( lucky my right arm is good, eh lads ! ) and then last year I got throat cancer and Im now ok through it, so I dont have much in my life, but the one thing I do have, is the ability to give my kids everythign they ask for... Luckily for me, its also my hobby too, and I love knocking PCs together and then getting my kids and their mates to hammer the crap out of each other at UT or whatever.

Its not like that all they do, cos they have not done it for weeks, but its all I can do these days.

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FanBoy

Yeah ok, Im not anymore, but certainly a few years ago, I would have defended AMD to the dead, now I dont... ( Seriously, I used to be bad for it )

I just want a change thats all.

 

[FatRakoon]

I fail to see the point behind this thread tbh.

I assume you were looking for a slap on the back and a few "Well dones" for going for AMD, but when people point out that it may not be the best decision (in their opinion) you decide that you don't care (or 'GAF') what people think.

Oddness.

No, read the OP

I did ask what AMD is comparable to what Intel so I will have an idea of what to expect.

I never did get that answer, but Rather than telling me anythign truly constructive , instead, I got slated for considering going to AMD.

I do GAF, but the negativity sometimes drags me down.

 

[FatRakoon]

I don't know if that mobo is upto the job really.

I would wait & get a mobo with a 750SB on it as the mobos out now with 600SB can barely run a Quad.

[HOMER]
DOH!
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Seriously? Man, its just bloody typical isnt it?

Not to worry, like I said, at 50 notes, its got to be worth a shot...

What would you suggest then? holding out? I know that if I dont open it, I can get a full refund ( Distance selling act ) and so I might consider that, but I know me... Impatient as I am, Ill end of opening it up.

Ill do some homework I think... Thanks for the Heads up!

 

[FatRakoon]

Right, now you are all getting on my t1tz
So, I finaly got my first AM2 PC and I should not use it???

AAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!

Seriously then... So, what do you recon I should look out for? Just the 750SB, or... ?

 

[FatRakoon]

Right, now you are all getting on my t1tz
So, I finaly got my first AM2 PC and I should not use it???

AAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!

Seriously then... So, what do you recon I should look out for? Just the 750SB, or... ?

 

[FatRakoon]

Yeah, credit where credit is due, I have to say that MSI have been good to me too!

My first 64Bit affair ( Which I still have ) is the MSI Neo2 Platinum with a Winchester 3200 ( Which I dont have ) and that board is currently running an x2-4800 and 6800GT with 4x512MB Corsair XMS 4400 Platinum and just does not crash, and it has been to 300FSB in the past ( Stock now however )

I was so happy with that board that the next setup I had after that was the MSI Neo4-F ( Also still have although only god knows whats in that right now? ) and previous to that I have a... Erm, somethign Socket A Delta-L I think? - I had 2 of those, the earlier one was a brilliant clocker, the newer one was not so good, but they were supposed to be the very same board.. K7N2, thats it! - the red one was good, the black one was not.

Anyway, Im digressing.

I have decided that I will agree that my choice of board was a hasty one... Driven purely on the DS3 in its name.

Im happy to hold out for a short while, its not like Im desperate or anything... Well I am, but lets stick to PCs for now yeah?. LOL

 

[FatRakoon]

I read somewhere that DFI are pulling out of the desktop market ???

Im trying to think where the hell I read this now, but Im sure Im not going dip-dip.

I only have one DFI and thats a Socket 754 that only this last week I have been tryign to get a Mobile 3700 running on it but failed so I have put the Newcastle 3000 back in. Flawless with that even at ridiculous clocks, but the Claw37 just dont want to know!

Anyway I just had a peek at the 775 and AM2 DFIs and they look typically DFI'd up

One make I have not seen as of late is IWILL ?

Are they still going?

I liked their boards.

 

[FatRakoon]

I myself have given up clocking in any serious way.

Sure, With my previous systems, I made sure that clocking was its prime function, and hell, when I first got my first Conroe... Ok, the E6300 is an allendale, but thats not the point, I mean, it was like twice as fast as my best clocked Opteron at stock, and so I felt the urge to see just how far this little cow went and was stunned to hell and back at the ridiculous speeds even I managed to get, I mean 543FSB ( Unstable, but who gives a stuff - thats just NUTS! )

Now though, Im just no longer bothering with as the systems I have now are far quicker than I really need them to be.