Going back to AMD

[Mul]

I'd have to agree with that comment.

My X2 4200+ cost £28, and AM2 motherboards (particularly Matx ones) are noticeably cheaper than the LGA775 equivalents. The CPU and Mobo in my second system cost £56, and that was new.

I've managed to overclock it to 2.5Ghz from 2.2Ghz, which isn't great, although the motherboard has very limited OC options, but it's the basis for a speedy, quiet and low power system for the cash.

I've built a good half dozen systems based around low end core 2's in the last year, but just for a change I thought I'd try and set up a low end AMD system this time, and I've been quite impressed!

I have no particular alliance to AMD or Intel, I just buy the best I can afford at the time for the budget I have. I also have a high end Intel system, and for everything but gaming, the AMD system does everything the Intel one does and I can't tell the difference.

Don't mean to thread derail but I also agree with the above. I bought an MSI 780G board for £50 and a Sempron 1.8GHz Dual Core for £28 for my HTPC and I got the setup up to 300*9 without any hassle at all. So far I'm finding 780G to be a brilliant little integrated graphics device for the money spent.

 

[marscay]

i've just built a new file server consisting of a E1200 (£26) and a MSI Neo2-FR (£60), i could have saved money on the board with a much cheaper version but this is a quality o/c'ing board for the money.

the e1200 went str8 to 3ghz at stock volts from it's 1.6ghz stock clock prime95 stable, almost a 100% overclock on stock voltage and this is why i stick with intel for the moment.....for overclockers they clock like snot and even the cheaper models offer tremendous performance when you're prepared to push them a bit.

 

[Mul]

Perhaps, but I still feel that when you get to Core 2's with just 512kb cache, the clock for clock advantage is pretty much diminished. I can see your logic though in that you have the the ability to drop a Core 2 Quad in right now that is faster than any phenom, but for those that won't there isn't all that big a difference. Most will get to 3.0GHz with either Athlon 64 X2 / Sempron Dual or Celeron/Pentium E1000 or E2000

 

[marscay]

the 3ghz is at stock volts remember, i think this chip will end up 3.3-3.4ghz with a 24/7 workable volt boost. for £25 and taking the 512kb cache into account i can't see any chip in the AMD range touching it for the money from an overclockers perspective.

for those not clocking i think AMD have the better value in the lower end.

 

[Tooks]

the 3ghz is at stock volts remember, i think this chip will end up 3.3-3.4ghz with a 24/7 workable volt boost. for £25 and taking the 512kb cache into account i can't see any chip in the AMD range touching it for the money from an overclockers perspective.

for those not clocking i think AMD have the better value in the lower end.

You've got a good one there I reckon!

The E1200 was the one Intel chip I had recently that didn't overclock like a demon! Mine went up to about 2.7Ghz IIRC, although I don't think it was on a great board.

Still, as you say, for the cash it's hard to beat.

 

[FatRakoon]

Im just too exited about the SB750 Mobos...

In a stupid way, do you know what a weasel war dance is? ( Check it out on the choob ) well, its when ferrets ( and weasels of course ) get so exited that they cannot contain themselves and just.... Well... Spaz out I suppose you can call it ( Not wanting to be offensive to anyone ), but thats exactly how I feel now.

Sad but true.

 

[keyser]

ferrets > *

 

[marscay]

Im just too exited about the SB750 Mobos...

In a stupid way, do you know what a weasel war dance is? ( Check it out on the choob ) well, its when ferrets ( and weasels of course ) get so exited that they cannot contain themselves and just.... Well... Spaz out I suppose you can call it ( Not wanting to be offensive to anyone ), but thats exactly how I feel now.

Sad but true.

fatrakoons letting out a bit of sex wee?

what's the deal with the new SB anyway....or have they just finally nailed a half decent one and caught up with intel?

 

[FatRakoon]

What....The.....FFFFF???

Sex Wee?

I have just soaked myself in piddle!!!

Ah, the SB750?

Dont you know what its all about?

You really dont know?

Well...

Its...

Err....?

Ok, neither do I but everyone seems to say its worth holding out for it anyway!!!

...

Sex Wee?

 

[TwistNut]

cant wait for the sb750 mobos

 

[Tetsu]

When are the new mobo likely to be out?

 

[nands]

techreport has some info on the SB750 as part of the 790GX chipset.

Reading this the SB750 sounds very good but the 790GX does not sound very special. I would have thought that with the integrated graphics you could get a bit of crossfire physics going for free but the review seems to imply that any dedicated graphics card essentially disables the integrated. Any thoughts?

 

[FatRakoon]

I would have thought that with the integrated graphics you could get a bit of crossfire physics going for free but the review seems to imply that any dedicated graphics card essentially disables the integrated. Any thoughts?

This has always been the case, but I have also read that some setups, can in fact use O/B Graphics for physics...

Im trying to think now, but I used to have a Mobo, and this Mobo was almost definitely NFORCE 2 and it had dual onboard Graphics and an AGP Port....

The special thing about this board was that you could use 3 independant outputs on it.

Im just buggered if I can think what board it was now?

 

[cavemanoc]

I thought hybrid crossfirex would be standard from here on in meaning that the onboard gfx would add to your performance, not simply be ignored? Certainly the 780g boards seem to be offering this little boon? And when the physx runtimes become available on ATi (either hacked or legit) it'll mean free bonuses for everyone!

 

[Mul]

790GX should be able to do hybrid crossfire just like 780G can do with Radeon 3400's, yeah. Been playing with hybrid cf myself.