• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

Going from a E1280 to a E2200

Richdog said:
ONLY 400mhz? Eh? 400mhz is a lot to an overclocker... if you don't think so then you don't like clocking chips, it really is that simple.

I can't believe people are actually sitting here in an enthusiast overclocking forum telling him NOT to get a FREE upgrade to a potentially much better clocking CPU (not forgetting his current one is crap)... would anyone here begrudge themselves a free CPU upgrade considering they only take 2 minutes to swap out... is that was this place has become?:eek:

Seems a bit of a sad situation if so.
Click to expand...


Oh don't be such a drama queen! :)

400mhz is the VERY BEST he could expect in my experience. In all likelihood it will be little or no better than what he has got now, and could indeed be worse. So what if it takes over 1.4v to get his current E2180 3.2Ghz overclock, he has still got it... He could get the same with lower volts, true, but does that really matter?

It's only an upgrade if it clocks better than what he has got already. In all other respects the CPU is exactly the same apart from the multiplier.

There are many reasons why he should do it if he wants, the 'fiddle factor' being one of them! :) There is also the slight benefit that the E2200 is a more expensive CPU, but not by much.

I was just expressing my opinion that I wouldn't bother personally.
 
Last edited:
2 minutes to swap lol.

With Tuniq Tower you pretty much have to take the whole mobo out just to remove the cooler.

It's Potentially a better clocking CPU so if you're feeling lucky then go for it.
 
still say no... too much hassle IMO... considering the OC is not so bad.

this is IMO a lateral upgrade that's needless... if it was to say an E6750, then fine.. but to the same processor class, when the chip is still working fine? no ways. what if the chip you get has some problem? or it just doesn't want to clock well? then you could have lost that 3.2ghz clock... we never know what we have until we lose it...

rather save the time and do something more worth it than have to stress-test a new chip for 12+ hours. I'm sure you can find something to do with all that time...
 
-iceblade^ said:
still say no... too much hassle IMO... considering the OC is not so bad.
Click to expand...

It is bad... 3.2ghz with 1,45v is poor.

this is IMO a lateral upgrade that's needless... if it was to say an E6750, then fine.. but to the same processor class, when the chip is still working fine? no ways. what if the chip you get has some problem? or it just doesn't want to clock well? then you could have lost that 3.2ghz clock... we never know what we have until we lose it...
Click to expand...

Goodness grief...

rather save the time and do something more worth it than have to stress-test a new chip for 12+ hours. I'm sure you can find something to do with all that time...
Click to expand...

Yeah because to an OC'ing enthusiast, benching and stressing a CPU is such a pain isn't it... it would be 12 hours that he would have otherwise spent creating ice sculptures, inventing things, or helping children in Africa...

Reading things like that make me sad, it kind of makes me think the enthusiast is a dying breed.
 
Richdog said:
It is bad... 3.2ghz with 1,45v is poor...

...Reading things like that make me sad, it kind of makes me think the enthusiast is a dying breed.
Click to expand...

Oh for goodness sake! :rolleyes:

The voltage in your opinion may be a tad high, but 3.2Ghz is not a bad clock from an E2XXX CPU, and I'm struggling to see what more he'd get from a different chip of the same class, even if it was exceptional. The OP has said himself that he hasn't tried to optimise the voltage yet, so the 1.475vcore could possibly be improved upon.

And, as you appear to be an enthusiast, in what way is the advice you've given the OP so far sensible?

You don't know the capabilities of the E2200 he's being offered, I know from experience of clocking these chips that anything over 3.2Ghz is a very good clock, but that not all of them can do it.

If the OP had also posted something like 'the E2200 does 3.4Ghz with 1.3v' then possibly it would be worth it.

As it is, it seems too much of a risk for not much gain, even if the E2200 is a very good one, and not just average.

Enthusiasts can be sensible too...
 
Richdog said:
Yeah because to an OC'ing enthusiast, benching and stressing a CPU is such a pain isn't it... it would be 12 hours that he would have otherwise spent creating ice sculptures, inventing things, or helping children in Africa...
Click to expand...

Easy to say when it's somebody else's setup and time...

And actually, helping children in Africa would probably be a much more worthwhile use of somebodys time to be honest. Don't know why you're being quite so sarcastic?
 
Tooks said:
And, as you appear to be an enthusiast, in what way is the advice you've given the OP so far sensible?
Click to expand...

It's a chance at a free upgrade? It's fun getting a new CPU and testing it's capabilities?

You don't know the capabilities of the E2200 he's being offered, I know from experience of clocking these chips that anything over 3.2Ghz is a very good clock, but that not all of them can do it.

If the OP had also posted something like 'the E2200 does 3.4Ghz with 1.3v' then possibly it would be worth it.

As it is, it seems too much of a risk for not much gain, even if the E2200 is a very good one, and not just average.
Click to expand...

What's the risk? The CPU will explode? He ends up with a similar lcocking CPU?

Enthusiasts can be sensible too...
Click to expand...

It's worth more and it's free!:p

Ignore the sarcasm it's a character flaw, and one I freely admit to.
 
Last edited:
Richdog said:
It's worth more and it's free!:p
Click to expand...

Aye, you're right, that £3.52 might come in handy one day! :)

By definition, an upgrade in computer terms means something that offers greater performance than the part it's replacing.

Can't see how that will apply here to be frank, unless the E2200 turns out to be an exceptional CPU! It is feasible he could end up with a worse CPU... :)

Anyway, going round in circles now. You have your view, I and several other posters have ours!

Let the OP decide!! :D
 
If the E2200 clocks 300mhz higher it's a good upgrade imo! But then again as I say, there's a thrill to be had getting a new CPU and clocking the hell out of it and finding its' limits, hence why I would take it, especially with my current being a bit of a lemon.

(I'll shut up now).
 
Last edited:
-iceblade^ said:
just, i have to ask... what does helipng children in Africa have to do with anything???

i can't fugure that out, lol
Click to expand...

It was my attempt to point out how much of a non-issue a few hours spent testing a new CPU is to the average person, and his suggestion that somehow if you weren't testing the CPU you'd be doing something else incredibly constructive with your time. Anyway, it's part of the fun. :p
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom