Gold prices

[TW]Fox;12983600 said:
Was this about the same time Goldman Sachs called oil at $200 by the year end?

Gold has dropped nearly $200 from its peaks earlier this year.

This was very recently, and I did say:

I can't see there being any gold shortage any time in the near future so not sure if it will shoot up to previous levels.

I see in the news some precious metal mining companies have been making lay-offs but doubt it will have that much of an immediate impact.

I'm quite aware of the gold situation as I had a punt earlier in the year and made a few quid (literally) on it after I got nervous. Platinum has fared so much worse since the peak though! In the long term, who knows...

If you or I actually had any clue what was going to happen with the commodities markets, we wouldn't be speculating about it on here :)

EDIT: I am keeping a good few grand's worth of physical gold at least in my portfolio. If some world governments decide to stock up and lessen supply, I'll be laughing. If not, then I'll chalk it down to (in)experience. Most gold trading right now tends to be day traders which accounts for the volatility. There will be a lot of asset sell-offs in this kind of economic climate but when the dust settles, I may have gambled correctly :)
 
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in dollars.
in pounds its making record highs.

i would hold onto it - the pound is trashed with these idiots in charge and will only lose value further against gold.

That's confused me a bit... I would say if the pound is going to tank against the USD, buy gold in USD, or am I missing something?
 
I would say if the pound is going to tank against the USD, buy gold in USD, or am I missing something?

First you have to buy your dollars with your worthless breetish pounds. :-)

As soon as you start following exchange rates as well as your own currency you start to realise just how hard it can be to stay ahead in a global market place.

I'm just kicking myself because I was advised to put some money into a euro account earlier this year. I was convinced by the reasons behind it, but starting an account proved too complicated and I was put off. But it would have been a great move.

Such is the joy of financial hindsight. :-) I do think the dollar's heading for a big fall. Sadly though, I think the pound will already be at the bottom of the financial heap waiting to catch it. :-/

Andrew McP
 
I'm just kicking myself because I was advised to put some money into a euro account earlier this year. I was convinced by the reasons behind it, but starting an account proved too complicated and I was put off. But it would have been a great move.
Andrew McP

I was going to move to Euros too but didn't bother - stupid, stupid, procrastination! :(

Agree it makes things much more complicated. I'll stick with what i have and may look into a punt on Barclays as well for the long term :)

Also toying with Platinum long term for a bit of fun!
 
That's confused me a bit... I would say if the pound is going to tank against the USD, buy gold in USD, or am I missing something?

i mean that even though gold has fallen from its peak in dollars, it is still making record highs in pounds, and i expect this to continue for a few more years yet.
 
I read something this morning about gold increasing to $2K per ounce.

That would be the "leaked" citi memo :) I'm keeping what I have purely on speculation of the pound tanking and gold maintaining it's "real" value relative to the GBP... nothing like a gamble for a bit of fun!
 
[TW]Fox;12984258 said:

Googling '9% oil supply decline' soon gets you to...

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e5e78778-a53f-11dd-b4f5-000077b07658.html

This is basically official recognition of figures which leading peak oil figures have been trying to publicise (for everyone's benefit, ultimately) for years. I don't like to quote large amounts of text, but this is an important issue, so in this case I'll make an exception...

"Output from the world’s oilfields is declining faster than previously thought, the first authoritative public study of the biggest fields shows.

Without extra investment to raise production, the natural annual rate of output decline is 9.1 per cent, the International Energy Agency says in its annual report, the World Energy Outlook, a draft of which has been obtained by the Financial Times.

The findings suggest the world will struggle to produce enough oil to make up for steep declines in existing fields, such as those in the North Sea, Russia and Alaska, and meet long-term demand. The effort will become even more acute as prices fall and investment decisions are delayed.

The IEA, the oil watchdog, forecasts that China, India and other developing countries’ demand will require investments of $360bn each year until 2030.

The agency says even with investment, the annual rate of output decline is 6.4 per cent.

The decline will not necessarily be felt in the next few years because demand is slowing down, but with the expected slowdown in investment the eventual effect will be magnified, oil executives say.

“The future rate of decline in output from producing oilfields as they mature is the single most important determinant of the amount of new capacity that will need to be built globally to meet demand,” the IEA says.

The watchdog warned that the world needed to make a “significant increase in future investments just to maintain the current level of production”.

The battle to replace mature oilfields’ output could even offset the decline in demand growth, which has given the industry – already struggling to find enough supply to meet needs, especially from China – a reprieve in the past few months.

The IEA predicted in its draft report, due to be published next month, that demand would be damped, “reflecting the impact of much higher oil prices and slightly slower economic growth”.

It expects oil consumption in 2030 to reach 106.4m barrels a day, down from last year’s forecast of 116.3m b/d.

The projections could yet be revised lower because the draft report was written a month ago, before the global financial crisis deepened after the collapse of Lehman Brothers.

All the increase in oil demand until 2030 comes from emerging countries, while consumption in developed countries declines.

As a result, the share of rich countries in global demand will drop from last year’s 59 per cent to less than half of the total in 2030.

This is the clearest indication yet that the focus of the industry on the demand – not just the supply – side is moving away from the US, Europe and Japan, towards emerging nations."

Andrew McP
 
That would be the "leaked" citi memo :) I'm keeping what I have purely on speculation of the pound tanking and gold maintaining it's "real" value relative to the GBP... nothing like a gamble for a bit of fun!

considering the amount of debt the country is considering borrowing its probably more of a gamble to keep british pounds :p
 
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