Good guy with a gun

I don't know why you care so much...oh wait just seen who I'm quoting...

@Efour shush you :p

Have you not seen the press in the last couple of years.

If he was one race over another, there would be murals, rioting, families being interviewed telling us what a good boy he was.

We would be told that he was innocent and only killed because of the colour of his skin and how racist we all are.

Strange that isn't the case here do you not think?
 
No, because context matters.

What context?

Man fights police at Wendy's, fires taser at policeman after wrestling him to the ground and then gets shot by a policeman in self defence.

Result = riots, Wendy's burnt down, family 'he was such a good father', police record shows he was in prison for battery, cruelty, false imprisonment etc


Other guy, shoots guy who shot and killed a police officer, gets killed by police.

No riots, nothing, no cries to defund the police, no buildings burnt down.

Context or something else?
 
No, because context matters.

The 'context' being that so called 'progressives' frequently feed lies to the population encouraging riots. (An egregious example being 'hands up dont shooting which was being trotted out years after it was shown to be a lie)

Serious attempts to study police interaction always tend to confirm that differential rates of things like stops, arrests, incarceration and deaths tend to follow the underlying criminality patterns of the people concerned rather than reflect police bias.

Saying police are racist because they interact with different racial groups at different rates would by the same 'logic' suggest that the police would have to be sexist aswell due to the disproportionate rates at which the police deal with men vs women.

No so long ago a Puerto Rican man and woman (complete with an associated flag) were dragged from their car after a minor road collision by a mob and shot at close range on the floor leading to them both dying.

If this had been a black couple dragged from their car by a 'white' mob (let's not forget that Hispanic and Latino people get included in 'whiteness' when it suits the narrative) and excuted with guns, whilst they lied on the floor, then the reaction would have been countrywide riots regardless of the 'context' of what had actually happened immediately beforehand.

Vince knows that if the man in this case of had been black that this would have been reported as 'proof' of the police's racist attitudes towards blacks regardless of the facts and would very likely of led some serious public disorder

I know he knows this and he knows I know he knows this.

But here he is with his weasly 'context'


The single biggest cause of a violent untimely death for a black persons in the UK and the US is being killed by another black person.

It's true that most whites murdered are murdered by other whites but the rates for blacks killing blacks, on a per capita basis are massively higher than the rates for whites killing whites.

Interracially, on a per capita basis, blacks kill whites at around twelve times the rate as the other way around in the US.


The police kill, arrest and stop a disproportionate amount of blacks based on their percentage of the population but these disparities are caused primarily by the disproportionate violent crime rates for blacks as reported by witnesses to crimes.


In the US whites arrested for violent crimes are significantly more likely to be killed by the police than blacks arrested for violent crimes.

Blacks are 3.57 times more likely to be arrested for a violent crime vs whites in the US but are only 2.5 times as likely to be killed over the course of their lives by police than whites
The claim is often then made that blacks commit more crime either because they are poor or because of some legacy of suffering from slavery and segregation.

Neither of these make any sense when examined more closely.

There are nearly three times as many whites living in poverty in the US than blacks as an absolute number (the percentage for blacks as group is about double that of whites but there are far fewer blacks overall than whites).


So if poverty was the main issue then the poor whites should be massively inflating the rate of overall violent crimes for whites vs the smaller number of blacks living in poverty on the US.

If a legacy of oppression was the cause of crime then we could expect one of the most consistently oppressed groups in all of history (the Jews) to top the per capita rates for violent crime but we don't see this.

Instead we see them and other minority groups who often entered the US poor like Koreans and Indians not only surpassing blacks in many metrics (including not being arrested or incarcerated) but also significantly beating the white majority in many cases.

The conclusion should be obvious.

Culture matters and not all cultures are equal.

Whites don't underperform Koreans in many metrics in the US due to racism, systemic or otherwise, they do so because large parts of white culture in the US are inferior to large parts of the culture adopted by Koreans living in the US when it comes to things like economic success and avoiding incarceration.

The same applies to other racial groups when compared to one another.

You can also look at the significant disparities within 'blacks' as a group.

Whites are one of the least likely of all racial groups to goto university in the UK.

Afro Caribbeans attend a rate close to whites but black Africans attend at a much higher rate than either whites or Afro Caribbeans.


Again the answer is in culture not racism.

Whites don't underperform Koreans in many metrics in the US due to racism, systemic or otherwise, they do so because large parts of white culture in the US are inferior to large parts of the culture adopted by Koreans living in the US when it comes to things like economic success and avoiding incarceration.

The same applies to other racial groups when compared to one another.

You can also look at the significant disparities within 'blacks' as a group.

Whites are one of the least likely of all racial groups to goto university in the UK.

Afro Caribbeans attend a rate close to whites but black Africans attend at a much higher rate than either whites or Afro Caribbeans.


Again the answer is in culture not racism.

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