Good quality radiator

They're not THE best rads, no, but you'll probably need a stack of testing kit to discern much difference between them. Other variables will have more notable effects.


Which Vardars?
F1, F2, F3, F4, F4-120ER or F5-FF5 Furious Vardar.....? :)

I only ask, as there are notable differences between each of the Vardar models. Noise being one of them.
these Radiator fan: EK-Vardar F3-120 (1850rpm)
 
these Radiator fan: EK-Vardar F3-120 (1850rpm)
Well, they're not bad. You can get higher performing ones, probably a set of 3 of almost any brand, for less money than a 60mm 360 rad. You'd also not need to fuss around draining the loop.
Temps look alright.
If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, there are plenty of options, but do you need to go much cooler?
 
Well, they're not bad. You can get higher performing ones, probably a set of 3 of almost any brand, for less money than a 60mm 360 rad. You'd also not need to fuss around draining the loop.
Temps look alright.
If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, there are plenty of options, but do you need to go much cooler?
probably not but the temps are better than I thought tbh, like I said before I was thinking of going down to one rad so thought a good quality rad would make up for 2 not so good quality :)
 
probably not but the temps are better than I thought tbh, like I said before I was thinking of going down to one rad so thought a good quality rad would make up for 2 not so good quality :)
A better quality rad would help a bit, but then you'd kill off that advantage by losing 240mm of cooling surface area. IIRC, it used to be a rule of thumb that you need 120mm of rad space for each component you were cooling, plus an additional 120mm.
 
You want to place the tip of the thermistor just protruding through the base of your case between the bottom fans and your water pump to record the inlet/ambient temperature. I proceeded to collate data by making sure my system was cooled down or had just been switched on and running HWINFO64. Then starting Heaven Benchmark and running the test loop for around 60 minutes. After the 60 minutes, before closing down the Heaven benchmark, I would record the speeds of each set of fans for that duration (dont adjust the speeds during the cycle), and the average (and peak) temperatures of the ambient air, cooling water, System1 mobo temp sensor, VRM_MOS, CPU and GPU, all taken from HWINFO. I would probably do 3 runs at the same fan settings just to ensure the temps obtained were reproduced. I was reducing my fan speeds to get the system as quiet as possible while maintaining a (water-ambient) Delta-T of around 10 degrees C and keeping the CPU and GPU averages < 50 degrees C. Another useful sensor I just added to my system is a coolant flow meter. It looks like you have the same pump and hose diameter as me and at 3700 rpm (~70%) your pump is flowing 4.7 litres per minute. I run my pump at 40% which is 1.43 litres per minute without it having an impact on my temps but the system is quieter. Below is some of the readings I was recording. HTH.
PC-temps.jpg
 
Your inside case temp and water seem fine. I use the mobo System1 temp as my internal air temp as I know it is around 3-4 degrees above the actual internal air temp from when I monitored it before fitting the water temp sensor.
 
Your inside case temp and water seem fine. I use the mobo System1 temp as my internal air temp as I know it is around 3-4 degrees above the actual internal air temp from when I monitored it before fitting the water temp sensor.
thanks for all the info , you have been very helpful :)
 
You are welcome. Pleased to have been able to assist you with whatever decision you make. At the end of the day its your PC and your money. It is always worth doing your own research before making any changes and do some data logging before and after the changes in order to gain an understanding of the impact those changes have made. Have fun. :)
 
You are welcome. Pleased to have been able to assist you with whatever decision you make. At the end of the day its your PC and your money. It is always worth doing your own research before making any changes and do some data logging before and after the changes in order to gain an understanding of the impact those changes have made. Have fun. :)
I am actually considering changing my case for the xl version as its on offer at the min and having a 360 at the bottom (i have a spare one sat doing nothing) and one at the top (a bit overkill but who cares) with 3 fans on the side, the fan at the back will be a big help I think, I do like the lian li cases ,lots of room and easy to build in, just deciding whether to hit the button lol
 
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