Google: Bing Is Cheating, Copying Our Search Results

cant see myself switching to bing...google offer me gmail, map with streetview, translation, shopping, images. all under one menu bar.
 
m4cc45 said:
Poor Google [/sarcasm]

I moved to Bing after all of the data mining that goes on with Google - I don't seem to have any problems with it and if they're using data from Google / Yahoo / etc. then it can only make the service better and hopefully without all of the data mining that google users seem to get.



M.
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Ok, I don't fall in with the paranoia crowd AT ALL, but don't particularly like my activities being watched and a google alternative wouldn't be bad but.

I assumed with Bing being MS it was probably worse, or at least on par with Google in that sense?
 
why didn't they just hack the servers and take googles search engine’s ranking algorithm
that way they wouldn't have to copy there results
they could then just make a few mods to it and call it there own
 
s innes said:
why didn't they just hack the servers and take googles search engine’s ranking algorithm
that way they wouldn't have to copy there results
they could then just make a few mods to it and call it there own
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That's close to what they're doing. They're not copying anything. All they're doing is seeing what links people use on google searches, and then rank bing results accordingly. Makes perfect sense and is totally opt-in for users.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Ok, I don't fall in with the paranoia crowd AT ALL, but don't particularly like my activities being watched and a google alternative wouldn't be bad but.

I assumed with Bing being MS it was probably worse, or at least on par with Google in that sense?
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Not according to anything I can find. Microsoft aren't saints but I think they've learnt that the only way they're going to compete is by offering an alternative such as the way they handle the search data.

Ever been on a website which shows adds for products you were searching for before? That's all nicely tied into google. Then there's the in-built app adverts - nigh on every free Android App has them and they drive you up the wall. Coupled with Chrome sending keystrokes back to Google (an 'on' option by default) I can't justifiably use them. In this day and age where data is key and you strive to protect your identity but then give this 'anonymous' entity the keys to your door.

http://venturebeat.com/2010/01/25/creepy-google-ad/



M.
 
This is quite an interesting perspective on it, (got to love RoughlyDrafted ) :)

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/...ypocritical-about-bing-using-its-public-data/

This in particular made me chuckle:

But no, this is Google claiming to be wronged by the reuse of the information it makes publicly available. The company that says it does no evil and loves freedom of ideas and sharing free and open source software.

This is the company that made its fortune on a business model stolen from Overture, that it later paid off in an out of court settlement with Yahoo. This is the company that appropriated Sun’s Java platform and changed just enough to avoid paying Sun to use its technology in the development of Android. The same firm that then turned Android into an iPhone workalike in order to turn its partnership with Apple into a predatory research session.

This is the company that indexes blogs, newspapers, and both digital and physical books, and then makes all this information available without consent in the contexts of its ads and paid search space, and is dismissal of anyone who objects to Google’s ultra liberal sense of copyright. It generated controversy by driving trucks around the world to take photos of everything, connecting to WiFi base stations as it went to suck up random data it could use.

Google copies every original idea it can find, like a massive information sponge, sucking up business models and innovative creations and forming its own duplicates, often with little success. In the last year, its most obvious advances were copies of Twitter… and the revised layout of Bing.
 
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Lakeland said:
er Google + harvesting wifi when doing street view anyone?

Leave them to it. If it means we have some competition then all the better, it's never good to have a market leader who is streets ahead.
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Nothing was "harvested" and what you're mentioning is media sensationalism which is the norm these days.
 
Khaaan! said:
Unprotceted wifi network data was collected as the cars passed by, yes, whether it was an accident or not who knows but there's no evidence to suggest they were being harvested to use illegally or otherwise.
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Which suggests either Google are technically incompetent and didn't notice they harvested millions of peoples personal data from all around the world by "mistake", or they knew full well what they were doing hoping to get away with it.

Frankly I can't see Larry Page, Sergey Brin, and Eric Schmidt post here with "ooops, I accidentallied your Wifi data..." ;)

Google were at the very least mapping peoples WiFi signals without asking to include as a location based service they then make money from.

Sorry, I don't see why the loyalty to a company that is just about making money. That's what they do, sometimes they misjudge what they're getting away with, sometimes they don't. Let's get past the whole "Google are just a bunch of nice guys that do no evil" thing. They are there to make their shareholders very, very rich. And there's nothing wrong in that, although their business practises are getting to be increasing, err, interesting..

Given that a huge chunk of Googles monumental profits is based on indexing and recording other peoples work, without permission and for free and then redelivering it I don't see how they can cry and try to take the moral high ground if someone else looks at the data they produce publicly.

Pot... Kettle...
 
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Khaaan! said:
Unprotceted wifi network data was collected as the cars passed by, yes, whether it was an accident or not who knows but there's no evidence to suggest they were being harvested to use illegally or otherwise.
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Harvested = gathered = collected = WHAT THEY DID
 
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