Google Home

This desperately needs to recognise and be locked down to individual voices. I showed it to my Nephew this evening and for the next 30 minutes he kept requesting Ed Sheeran, kept turning the volume up to max and kept turning my light on and off.
 
This desperately needs to recognise and be locked down to individual voices.........

I would prefer my Google Home devices not be "locked down" to an individual voice as I wish my family and friends to feel free to ask it questions that a group of us can share. I find it fun when a group of us are in a room and anyone of us can ask it questions that come up in conversation. I believe where voice recognition would be helpful is in creating multiple user accounts on the same Home device.....ie, Home hears a voice and connects the speaker to his/her own Google calendar, GMail, etc so that each user can for example ask Home about their particular daily calendar, Gmails, etc, which would mean that it would be unnecessary for each user to have his personal Home device.

But I do share the frustration you must have felt with your young nephew! Parental control seems a more efficient option?
 
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There needs to be some kind of security then. At least with a PC you can lock your device, with this there's nothing. I have no idea what my friends would search for when they're drunk and I'm out of the room but ultimately I would be responsible.

Edit: And something to add to my wish list for Google Home 2, a digital clock display. You get the same type of thing on those cheap alarm clocks so it can't be too expensive to implement.
 
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Bixby embodies why I hate Samsung software. Tempted by g home and p hue. I know Apple hired a world leader in AI a few years ago, exciting times. I wouldn't really put any stock in bixby. It seems hurried with no long term plan.
 
Bixby embodies why I hate Samsung software. Tempted by g home and p hue. I know Apple hired a world leader in AI a few years ago, exciting times. I wouldn't really put any stock in bixby. It seems hurried with no long term plan.

that opinion is strengthened by delays of half the functionality. The home functionality will still work, but I bet they never considered security as an issue.

I suppose you could setup a phrase by referring to someones name as an identifier:

request
-<command>("for <user>")
result

where command would be "what is in the calendar for today" you could then suffix a persons name on the end, or leave the whole "for person" empty to return the main person?.... It seems like a huge faff because you would have to make up a load of custom commands where as *actual* voice recognition (know who is asking) would solve a lot of problems....
 
I would prefer my Google Home devices not be "locked down" to an individual voice as I wish my family and friends to feel free to ask it questions that a group of us can share. I find it fun when a group of us are in a room and anyone of us can ask it questions that come up in conversation. I believe where voice recognition would be helpful is in creating multiple user accounts on the same Home device.....ie, Home hears a voice and connects the speaker to his/her own Google calendar, GMail, etc so that each user can for example ask Home about their particular daily calendar, Gmails, etc, which would mean that it would be unnecessary for each user to have his personal Home device.

But I do share the frustration you must have felt with your young nephew! Parental control seems a more efficient option?

Soon this should not be a problem! Google Home now supports multiple users in the US and can be made personal to up to 6 voices and is coming to the UK soon.

https://blog.google/products/assistant/tomato-tomahto-google-home-now-supports-multiple-users/
 
The pace of new actions on Home seems to be speeding up. This note from Venture Beat sums up some of the newer features, often launched first in US and expected to be brought to the UK soon. Anyone use AirBnB for a property rental? If so, the Venture Beat note mentions one new feature which I like on Home:

"Another noteworthy new action is The Virtual Concierge..........By saying “Talk to the virtual concierge,” a vacation rental or AirbnB guest can learn about house rules, or ask questions about things like the Wi-Fi password, nearby restaurant recommendations, and a range of other things a property may want a guest to know."

https://venturebeat.com/2017/04/24/google-assistant-can-now-turn-you-into-a-wannabe-bird-whisperer/
 
that is referring to google assistant so you can do it from your mobile too :)

On a side note, I am wondering why google wifi doesn't have google home with it :p

I really need to invest in smart home more.
 
that is referring to google assistant so you can do it from your mobile too :)

On a side note, I am wondering why google wifi doesn't have google home with it :p

I really need to invest in smart home more.

One of the best things I did to get my smart home going was to buy a Nest Thermostat. It learns about your preferences. And it is controlled by voice either by your Google Assistant enhanced smartphone (works well with my Pixel XL) but now more recently with my Google Home.

On other smart home products I have Nest Protect for detecting carbon monoxide emissions near the boiler and fireplace.

I am considering integrating Philips Hue lights with Google Home.

I would expect a future Google Home to integrate WiFi but perhaps at a higher cost than the original Google Home and perhaps with a different (bulkier?) design.
 
Have been seriously looking into getting one of these but one thing which I don't quite understand - since we have a phone on us 90% of the time at home, what does this do which my phone can't? I already have multiple devices respond when I say "OK GOOGLE".
 
Have been seriously looking into getting one of these but one thing which I don't quite understand - since we have a phone on us 90% of the time at home, what does this do which my phone can't? I already have multiple devices respond when I say "OK GOOGLE".

You ask a great question: What can Google Home do that my Android phone can't? Ultimately it is a lifestyle choice and hence these are my personal impressions. Google Assistant is built into both devices (although I believe some actions are on Home but not yet on the phone Google Assistant), but I find it more intuitive as the standalone Home speaker.

I for one do not wish to be tied to a phone screen. If you carry a phone in the house 90% of the time, it is often in your pocket where the response is muffled when you say: "OK Google....." It requires a separate action to pull the phone out of your pocket or leaving it permanently outside your pocket. If you use Assistant, you are trying to minimise your actions, not add to them. Having a conversation is the most natural thing I can think of doing with a smart assistant device. Being forced to take the phone out to hear a response reasonably well seems an unnecessary action when I do not need to do anything with Home other than speak. The quality of the microphones on Home that pick up your sound from across a room is excellent. Further, the quality of the response sound is much much better on Home than on my top of the line Android phone, the Pixel XL. Google Home has three quality speakers compared to a single speaker on the Pixel. So any music played sounds amazing, much better quality than my phone.

Google Assistant is super intelligent on Home. When the Pixel XL knows that it is near Google Home, it automatically allows Google Home to respond to everything, so you do not get your phone making any response or taking any action. What I find myself doing is not needing to carry my phone around the house. More and more actions are becoming more natural for me to perform on Home without lifting a finger! I do not feel as inclined to use Assistant on my phone with the frequency I use Home. For example, yes I can regulate my Nest Thermostat on my Pixel phone but I find it easier to adjust it by simply asking Home to do it. I find it easier to ask Home to play music because the quality of the sound is so outstanding.

And here is my final thought on why Home rather than GA on my Pixel. I find Home to be a great product for my entire family. Unlike my Pixel which I use exclusively and do not share with anyone else, Home's greatest selling point is the ability for group conversations to interact with it. Anyone in the room can ask Home a question or ask it to take an action. This distinction is clearly not lost on Google. Recently Google introduced the ability of Home to detect up to 6 different voices so that only you will be able to access private information on Home----ie, Home tied to your Gmail account will mean that only your voice can access your calendar, Gmails, etc., but anyone else can access non-private info on Home. Google introduced it first in the US and it is being launched in the UK very soon.

Hope this gives you some impressions as to why I chose Home in addition to having a Pixel phone.
 
@sesevans Thanks for the very informative reply, I can definitely see the appeal now. Is it still tied to a single google account?

You are welcome. As to your reply, yes in US and, according to recent press comments, coming to UK very soon:

https://www.cnet.com/uk/how-to/how-to-add-multiple-accounts-to-google-home/

The ability to distinguish up to 6 different voices for account action is a reflection of the intense investment Google has made over many years in the area of voice and Google Translate. The ability to distinguish accents is part of their huge investment in this area. See this article on their recent announcement in India to give you a sense of just how intensive has been their research efforts, esp in the areas of neural machine learning and Artificial Intelligence. Google is able to infer what you mean too. For example when you ask Google Assistant / GH a question, you can follow it up with the assumption that Google is able to assume you are talking about the same topic or person. Humans can infer meanings from how you speak to another person. So it seems can GA/GH.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/google...a-with-neural-machine-translation-technology/
 
Heads up Home is currently £129 with a free chromecast at Argos. Exactly the combo i need but havent persuaded the girlfriend on Home yet...
 
Heads up Home is currently £129 with a free chromecast at Argos. Exactly the combo i need but havent persuaded the girlfriend on Home yet...

Yes, I mentioned this deal the other day when I bought my third GH with a free Chromecast (see forum for Networking and Interconnectivity on Overclockers--there is an active GH and Google WiFi discussion going on over there). I picked mine up at the Google Store at PCWorld Curry's in London on Friday so I assume this deal is available at all retail outlets that sell GH including John Lewis, etc. I did not notice the deal on the Google Play Store devices website but perhaps it becomes available when you checkout of the purchase.
 
Fair enough! I currently have a stereo amp with my Chromecast Audio going into it via 3.5mm jack. Once I buy my new AV receiver and ditch the stereo amp, I will buy a regular Chromecast. Would that make my Chromecast Audio defunct? :confused:

Most of my Chromecasting would be music (not video), what happens when you cast music only to a regular Chromecast into an AV receiver?
 
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