Google nest relocation question

psd99

psd99

psd99

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Hi the problem in my house is that the google nest is situated in the open kitchen/dining area and this area obviously gets quite hot when cooking. When everything was getting kitted out I think I made the wrong decision in where to locate the nest, as I was going to go for the hallway but decided not to!

While the heating is on and as the nest is located in this area the heating will often turn off at around 22C but the rest of the house like the passage and upstairs will just not be warm enough. So end result is having to turn the heating up a notch, which makes it feel unbearable in the kitchen/diner.

I've played around with the settings and balanced the radiators around with the thermostats and it has slightly helped but not that fantastic. I've noticed that a temperature of 21.5C during the night seems to be just about right for all of the little ones etc.

However, just wondering about the nest.

This is my setup:


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currently on the wall as can be seen.

Today I took the top off and this happened:

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what I'm wondering is if I disconnected those wires, took out the base from the wall and connected it via USB and moved it say the bedroom upstairs, does that look like it will work?

So like for instance will the google nest turn off when like the temperature in the bedroom hits 22c?
 
Yes, it should work if you connect the back plane to usb and move it.
We've got the stand for our nest and it sits in the corner of the lounge. Works well enough.
 
psd99 said:
would I have got the stand by default?

or is the stand actually in my wall?
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Best place for it is the coldest part inside your home. So ideally downstairs hallway.

Then you balance the radiators around your home to accommodate it. Sticking it in the hottest place in your home (kitchen) would be the dumbest thing you can do as every time you do some cooking it turns the heating off in your home for hours until it's dispersed making the rest of your home cold.

The second worst location would be a living room. As they usually have fires and humans in them creating heat. So if you have 6 friends come over heating turns off and rest of your home is now freezing.

There is a reason why 99% of homes have the stat in the downstairs hallway. Heat rises. Sticking it in a bedroom would be a no-no. As there will be humans in there creating heat too as well as hot air moving upwards into the upstairs of the home.

Stick it in the downstairs hallway.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Best place for it is the coldest part inside your home. So ideally downstairs hallway.

Then you balance the radiators around your home to accommodate it. Sticking it in the hottest place in your home (kitchen) would be the dumbest thing you can do as every time you do some cooking it turns the heating off in your home for hours until it's dispersed making the rest of your home cold.

The second worst location would be a living room. As they usually have fires and humans in them creating heat. So if you have 6 friends come over heating turns off and rest of your home is now freezing.

There is a reason why 99% of homes have the stat in the downstairs hallway. Heat rises. Sticking it in a bedroom would be a no-no. As there will be humans in there creating heat too as well as hot air moving upwards into the upstairs of the home.

Stick it in the downstairs hallway.
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yes I get that, I ended up putting it into the wrong place but will my new plan work via USB?

I got spare sockets under the stairs that will allow me mount it in the hallway but then I'd be leaving exposed cables in the dining room.
 
psd99 said:
yes I get that, I ended up putting it into the wrong place but will my new plan work via USB?

I got spare sockets under the stairs that will allow me mount it in the hallway but then I'd be leaving exposed cables in the dining room.
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Yeah it will work fine. As for the exposed wires you can simply wrap them in electrical tape and push them into the wall and cover the hole with a blanking plate. I wouldn't recommend covering them with a permanent solution in case in future you require access to them. A blanking plate with silicone around it should be fine in a kitchen.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Best place for it is the coldest part inside your home. So ideally downstairs hallway.

Then you balance the radiators around your home to accommodate it. Sticking it in the hottest place in your home (kitchen) would be the dumbest thing you can do as every time you do some cooking it turns the heating off in your home for hours until it's dispersed making the rest of your home cold.

The second worst location would be a living room. As they usually have fires and humans in them creating heat. So if you have 6 friends come over heating turns off and rest of your home is now freezing.

There is a reason why 99% of homes have the stat in the downstairs hallway. Heat rises. Sticking it in a bedroom would be a no-no. As there will be humans in there creating heat too as well as hot air moving upwards into the upstairs of the home.

Stick it in the downstairs hallway.
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Lol, I'm in a new build and the two locations I have thermostats (which I replaced with Nests) are the lounge and the master bedroom!
 
Thanks I will give this a go but the cable seems too short. I need like 2 metres long so I can do a neat job.

Which cable is that? Mini Usb to usb?
 
You are right about the hallway I think
But the key will be to rebalance the radiators

In theory i always wanted to select a temperature and keep the nest on 24/7 but this has not been possible so far!
 
Em3bbs said:
I suffer the same pain in my house, bloody signs everywhere!
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yes tell me about it! it's hard to convince them otherwise

let's see if the nest location in the hallway makes a difference. Just need the weather to be colder now

what connector is that btw? usb to mini usb?
 
Well the good news is that I was able to get the nest off of the wall and temporarily power it on via usb
However justt wondering what is actually detecting the temperature?


Is it the lovely round google nest or is it that white thermostat thing that is tucked away in my kitchen coupbard?

If so then this exercise is pointless
 
The Nest thermostat detects the temperature. It would be pointless the Heat Link doing it. Its job is just to communicate with the boiler. Both of my Heat Links are in the garage where the boiler is.
 
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