GordyR's Beginners Guide to Bodybuilding

lol I cant put pics up of my fat haha I'm currently 13.5stone and 5"11ish can grab a good wedge of fat around my stomach!

Since leaving school two years ago I really haven't done much exercise last week I started playing squash and and sweating out a lot of water!

it will be good for you, honest. post up :]
you are lighter than most here i would bet and carrying less fat that you really think.
 
it will be good for you, honest. post up :]
you are lighter than most here i would bet and carrying less fat that you really think.

well i got a photo. but how will it be good for me? haha

how long does it normally take to see the effects??

still not sure weather to get right on the training or to lose abit first!!

i'll post pic when i get to work (iphone cable there lol)
 
right you asked for it! lol

links to photos rather than posting my fat here haha

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a295/pug306XS/IMG_0025.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a295/pug306XS/IMG_0027.jpg

what do you think i should do? straight into training? or lose some first?

There is nothing to you! :p
Personally i wouldnt bother 'cutting', just get on with the clean eating with a good starter routine (as per opening posts). As a new trainer you will start seeing good gains in the first 2 months, then it will plateux a bit, this is the end of the honeymoon period :]
 
There is nothing to you! :p
Personally i wouldnt bother 'cutting', just get on with the clean eating with a good starter routine (as per opening posts). As a new trainer you will start seeing good gains in the first 2 months, then it will plateux a bit, this is the end of the honeymoon period :]

with gains do you mean i will start to see the muscle etc arriving (lol) or more getting bigger still??

im goign to give the first post another good read now!

i can notice the belly i know its there haha, defo fat there lol
 
Right. so im now set on getting going as of tomo! just few more questions.

Monday (Chest/Shoulder/Triceps)

Flat Bench Press – 3x8
Incline Dumbbell Bench – 3x8
Skull Crushers – 3x8 (similar to lying tricep extensions)
Close Grip Bench Press – 3x8
Seated Dumbbell Military Press -3x8
Lateral Dumbbell Raises – 3x8


Wednesday (Back/Biceps)

Dead lifts – 3x8
Bent over one arm Dumbbell rows – 3x8
Chin Ups 3x8 (Or Lat pull downs if you can’t do chins yet)
Barbell Bicep Curl -3x8
One arm Dumbbell hammer Curls – 3x8


Friday (Legs/Abs)

Barbell Squats – 3x8
Dumbbell Lunges – 3x8
Calf Raises-4x10
Abdominal workout (Crunches, leg raises, whatever)

if i stick to that on those days im guessing playing squash on tuesday and thursdays will be fine?? although saying that i might shift everything a day to fit in with what i have going on in the evenings.

now onto what i should be eating.

5/6 meals a day whilst im working is going to be hard. what soft of things can i build up at home and bring to work with me? im thinking...

Multi grain bread - with tuna filling
A cold tuna and pasta salad type thing?
Cold chicken salad
etc??

should i set myself times of the day to eat? say

breakfast - 7.45
midmorning snack - 10am
Lunch - 12noon
afternoon snack - 3pm
Dinner - 6.30pm (earlest i can do)
Evening Snack - 9pm
?

As for when to do the exercise, if i eat at 6.30 start my exercise at 7.30pm is that the best idea? and then eating again at 9pm?

when should i fit in the protien shake? should that be straight after my work out?

sorry for all the questions i want to try and get it right from the word go though lol
 
right you asked for it! lol

links to photos rather than posting my fat here haha

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a295/pug306XS/IMG_0025.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a295/pug306XS/IMG_0027.jpg

what do you think i should do? straight into training? or lose some first?

lol you got no fat to lose m8, build that chest up so that it sticks out more than your stomach and your golden, when i started i prolly had a stone more fat than you have in those pics (38-40 waist) tbh im not a lot slimmer than you now, but having the muscle helps divert attention ;) good luck!
 
I have more or less the same questions. There's a good chance I can borrow some equipment from my uncle with a view to buy either his but gives me a chance to save for my own if he wants to keep it.

Local gym is women only in this town as far as I'm aware and the gyms near work are small and usually quite busy. Plus to be honest I'd find it quite embarrassing.

I have taken a couple of photos. I don't have any scales here but I was about 11.5 stone a month ago and I'm about 5'11" like Stinky.

Here are some pics:

http://www.duperouzel.co.uk/misc/fitnessbody/day1.jpg
http://www.duperouzel.co.uk/misc/fitnessbody/day1-2.jpg

Am I alright to go straight into it as I am?

Time for a full head shave too methinks! lol
 
if im good to get going right off then i recon you are mate ;)

is it best to start my training / eating when i have the protien powder to?? i cant get it till the end of the month :(

should i just start anyway
 
if im good to get going right off then i recon you are mate ;)

is it best to start my training / eating when i have the protien powder to?? i cant get it till the end of the month :(

should i just start anyway
The protein isn't a magical powder that's gonna turn you from man into machine. FAR FAR FAR more important is your general diet (ie. sufficient protein, good carbs, variety of fats and fruit and veg). Whey protein is a supplement, an addition to an already good diet. Having said that whey is a great product and is invaluable post workout and when you haven't got time for a proper meal.

Basically don't place too much emphasis on whey protein, you'll only end up disappointed, focus on proper food first and foremost (then rest, training and finally whey ;))
 
The protein isn't a magical powder that's gonna turn you from man into machine. FAR FAR FAR more important is your general diet (ie. sufficient protein, good carbs, variety of fats and fruit and veg). Whey protein is a supplement, an addition to an already good diet. Having said that whey is a great product and is invaluable post workout and when you haven't got time for a proper meal.

Basically don't place too much emphasis on whey protein, you'll only end up disappointed, focus on proper food first and foremost (then rest, training and finally whey ;))

im struggling to think up some high protein meals. breakfast lunch dinner?

im thinking other meals (snacking) will be a chicken breast mid morning (maybe some pasta to) and some tuna in the afternoon. etc

but as for main meals im abit stuck!
 

- Protein Pancakes:
200g Cottage Cheese, 100g oat powder, 100ml skimmed milk and 2 tbsp sweetener blended up and made into protein pancakes
Cost: 23p Cottage Cheese, oats 5p, Milk 6p. Total 34p
(Oat powder is just economy oats ground up in a blender)
557 kcal; 71g carbs; 43g pro; 11g fat; 9g fibre

- Turkey Bolognese:
70g wholemeal pasta, 200g passata, 150g turkey mince, 1 onion, 2 mushrooms
Cost: 40p turkey mince, 11p passata, pasta 6p, two mushrooms 12p, onion 8p. Total 77p
542 kcal; 69g carbs; 43g pro; 10g fat; 10g fibre

- iOpener's Bulking Shake:
200g cottage cheese, 80g oat powder, 15g ASDA crunchy peanut butter, 10g cocoa powder with sweetener. Put all in blender with water and mix well.
Cost: cottage cheese 23p, oats 5p, peanut butter 2p, cocoa powder with sweetener 3p. Total 33p
580 kcal; 58g carbs; 43g pro; 19g fat; 10g fibre

- Pre Workout:
100g mince turkey, 1 whole egg, 100g oats, 250g green beans. Make into burgers and grill.
Cost: green beans 20p, oats 5p, turkey 30p, eggs 6p. Total 61p
558 kcal; 17g fat; 61g carbs; 36g pro; 8.5g fibre

- PWO (post workout)
40g whey in water, 50g oat powder, 1 banana
Cost: whey 32p, oat powder 3p, banana 15p. Total 50p
30g pro; 60g carbs; 4g fat 360

- PPWO (post post workout) Pilchards Bolognese
200g pilchards in tomato sauce, 100g pasta, 3 mushrooms, 1 onion
Cost: pilchards 25p, pasta 6p, onion 8p, mushrooms 10p. Total 49p
551 kcal; 11g fat; 67g carbs; 46g pro; 9g fibre;

- Pre bed
200g cottage cheese, 15g peanut butter, 10g cocoa with sweetener
Cost: peanut butter 2p, cottage cheese 23p, cocoa powder with sweetener 3p. Total 28p
292 Kcal; 13g fat; 10g carbs; 35g pro; 3g fibre

Total nutritional value: 3440kcal; 400g carbs; 280g protein; 85g fat
Total cost for the day : £3.32

seems pretty good. only thing that worries me in the 3500 kcals in a day. but obvioulsy im guessing that is turned into as much muscle as pos
 
What to Leave Out?

* Isolation movements; yes that's correct; it does mean arm exercises.
* Deadlifts. UNLESS they have someone there helping them to get it right form day one.
* Calf movements. Most should probably spend the first few weeks developing range of motion in the calves instead.
* Clean and jerk, kettle bell windmills, Turkish get ups, etc
* Taxing bodyweight movements like chins and dips. I actually see people recommending body weight pull ups for trainees that have no shoulder stability, lat flexibility and upper body strength. Insane, vindictive or just really stupid? You decide.
* Most abdominal work. Most is totally useless for exercise performance anyway and it takes the emphasis off the job in hand.

whats left to do if that is all left out the routine?
 
seems pretty good. only thing that worries me in the 3500 kcals in a day. but obvioulsy im guessing that is turned into as much muscle as pos

I was going to reply with a list of meats (chicken, pork, beef, lamb), cheese (cottage and quark), eggs etc. but seems you've done the research yourself. :D

If you're worried about the amount of calories there cut back on some of the 400gms of carbs (remember 1g carbs = 4kcals)
 
I haven't personally tried it myself, but Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength Routine has some great feedback, especially for beginners.

Google it, theres lots of info about it over on bodoybuilding.com forum (lol)
 
right im going to have to get more up to speed with the types of weight exercises. as im not sure on what those youve listed are.

adding up the cost of all those protein filled food is seeming expensive lol. chicken breast = £3.50 for 2 :eek: etc lol
 
right im going to have to get more up to speed with the types of weight exercises. as im not sure on what those youve listed are.

adding up the cost of all those protein filled food is seeming expensive lol. chicken breast = £3.50 for 2 :eek: etc lol

Go to a local butchers rahter than a supermarket. We probably pay about £1 each and the quality is just so much more than a supermarket. You're also helping the local economy too.
 
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