Soldato
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Slightly cheaper than the cheapest Polo MatchIf it was a CSI then maybe, personally I’d prefer this, but hey, I’m in no position to dream of never mind buying either!
Got an itch - Aston Martin DB9 V12
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Where I struggle is I perceive db9s as broadly 30-40k cars now because of the very long run on them, and you're paying a huge premium to get one towards the end of it.
You can get similar mileage and spec v12 2018 db11s for 72-75k, so 66k for a db9 seems a huge amount!
If you do love the db9 so much, and really want a low mileage as new possible one, then fine, but I feel like you could get 90% of the experience for 60% of the purchase price.
You can get similar mileage and spec v12 2018 db11s for 72-75k, so 66k for a db9 seems a huge amount!
If you do love the db9 so much, and really want a low mileage as new possible one, then fine, but I feel like you could get 90% of the experience for 60% of the purchase price.
The DB9 is probably a better resolved car than the DB11 though. The early DB11 is a bit strange in that it feels every bit as sporty as my Range Rover when off the motorway, seriously struggles with traction even in the dry in a straight line and has the interior tech from a 15yo Mercedes which, unlike the DB9, cannot be hidden away and/or forgiven for being in a car designed 20+ years ago. The DB9 sounds better too.
The V8 and AMR V12 models sort out a chunk of the handling issues but they don't fix the interior. One minor saving grace is that (wired) CarPlay can be retrofitted by a main dealer for ~£1200.
On the other hand, the DB11 is enormously faster than the DB9 in every way thanks to the glut of torque provided by the turbochargers - if you manage to convince it to put the power down.
The V8 and AMR V12 models sort out a chunk of the handling issues but they don't fix the interior. One minor saving grace is that (wired) CarPlay can be retrofitted by a main dealer for ~£1200.
On the other hand, the DB11 is enormously faster than the DB9 in every way thanks to the glut of torque provided by the turbochargers - if you manage to convince it to put the power down.
In no way was I saying get a db11, I can see the attraction of the db9 and how it probably isn't scratched by the 11. I meant paying nearly db11 prices for a db9 feels very heart over head Vs getting a 40-50k one that will be very similar bar the number plate and odometer reading - I imagine this type of car easier to find good examples of too as most will be owned by people that cherish them and garage them etc!
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Yeah i was up there earlier this year and it just re confirms that it really should be an AM once in my life!
Aston's generally have incredible sound tracks.
My V8 Vantage now no longer has back boxes, my cousin has removed them and put link pipes in their place, the tone is un-changed but its quite a bit louder and it was no quiet before, sounds incredible.
Got a few friends with V12 Vantage's the sound track is incredible, I am still yet to try a V12 as in own one so it will either be an Aston or a Ferrari.
Thing is decent DB9s even 2004 ones are £35k-£40k. Okay this one I am looking at is a 2013 (2014 model) so hence its a lot mroe money but they cars changed a lot over those 8 years with two facelifts, power going up 90bhp, adjustable upgraded suspension, rev 2 of the auto box which is much improved, improved interior etc etc. It doesnt help this particularly one had so many options ticked that it drove its new price to £140k. So for the extra £20k over older cars you arent just getting a newer, lower mileage one.
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A 10yr fresher car should in general be in much better all round condition, only the very best 2004 examples will be as clean at which point they might be garage queens which can also bring a whole host of issues.
I'd say you are correct in looking at 2013 onwards with average miles, you want a car in good condition that has been used, best to avoid low mileage cars that do not get driven for months.
If you can then you must.
Doesn't matter what the car is really, but if you have always wanted something and the opportunity arises to have it without causing issues down the line, then you must. One life and all that and Aston Martin is THE coolest brand in motoring and though their cars leave me a bit meh, I always love to see one and respect what they are.
Maker of some of the most gorgeous cars ever made.
That first Craig Bond car when he walks out to it, I remember my words in the cinema
I can only post on of the middle letters but it was something like uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Doesn't matter what the car is really, but if you have always wanted something and the opportunity arises to have it without causing issues down the line, then you must. One life and all that and Aston Martin is THE coolest brand in motoring and though their cars leave me a bit meh, I always love to see one and respect what they are.
Maker of some of the most gorgeous cars ever made.
That first Craig Bond car when he walks out to it, I remember my words in the cinema
I can only post on of the middle letters but it was something like uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
They can stop making new ones but can’t force old ones of the road just like there are still plenty of classic 50yr old cars driving around, would cause quite a revolt particular in countries like USA, U.K. am sure the oil companies will want to keep selling fuel as well.
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The end. Yolo and all that.
All of that is true.
But when a "carbon tax" adds £1 to a litre of fuel. When road tax goes up to £2000 a year when the "environmental levy" comes in it will spell the end of cars like this.
I'm writing this as a previous owner of 2 caterhams and an Impreza.
It's sad, but it's coming.
2k really what a shambles so many beauts will be i dont know just garaged more.
I hope not but then maybe even more reason to enjoy a car like this for up to 10 years while you can.
I would say if you're going to do it, do it now, or forever have that regret.
Fuel has gone up by more than £1 while I've been driving. Another £1, especially an inflated-away future £1 won't be the end of the world for the vast majority of people who are running Astons, Ferrari, Lamborghini etc.
I'd happily pay £2k/yr road tax to run around in an awesome car/supercar/whatever. A drop in the ocean for cars like this.
This hypothetical situation will force cars nobody cares about off the road perhaps, but not awesome cars loved by petrolhead enthusiasts.
Well when it comes I guess I’ll make the decision and just keep 2/3 cars out the collection. Though the fuel cost is not really an issue it’s already hit £2 a litre and though it won’t be fun £3 a litre ain’t end of the world.
Be interesting if they ever abolish the 40yr age rule for no MOT and tax as with that the Corvette is very cheap to own and enjoy as the only cost is fuel and insurance with latter been £150 a year.
Soldato
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Always been a petrol head but the calc i did on my old 2003 M3 made me think ... over 100k miles to late 2008, so 48.8 tons of CO2, didn't have stomach to work out its V8 replacement.