Got myself a Samsung NP355V5C S01UK (AMD A10 4600M + HD7670M 1GB)

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The family laptop has been in a bit of a state for a while so I've got a new one, with the following spec

A10 4600M quad core CPU with 7660G graphics
HD7670M 1GB DDR3 GPU
8GB RAM
1TB HDD (though only 5400rpm)
15.6" matte screen (though only 1366*768)

The screen and hard drive are distinctly average, but this isn't for any serious work so forgivable. Overall first impressions are very good. De-crapwared it in no time at all and set it up how I like, it's very snappy and the battery is pretty good by the looks of it. I've been browsing etc for 2 hours and it's showing 3 hours remaining (from first part charge) with decent screen brightness and High Performance selected in Windows. The lack of shiny tat is nice, there isn't any fingering magnet surfaces to be seen inside the machine at all which is nice. The lid is gloss, though it has a nice brushed metal effect that doesn't offend too much. Keyboard wise, I'm a Thinkpad/oldschool Latitude man, the island keyboard here is quiet in operation but the keys don't have much travel and seem small and far apart to me. Time will tell but I reckon it's a 6/10. There is a numerical keypad on it, which is as expected and a welcome addition to a 15.6 incher.

Of course it isn't a serious gaming machine but I've dropped Steam and Origin on there and a smattering of games. Every game I've had the brief time to test works to some extent at the native res, even BF3 is playable in multiplayer. The laptop palmrest does become quite warm while gaming/benchmarking, not eyebrow raising hot, but noticeable.

The AMD Catalyst Control Center (or whatever they want to call it these days) is quite spartan, bar some initially confusing performance and dual graphics settings. Not sure what driver version it's running just yet (8.944.2.1000) or what the craic is with what version I can use, will look into it. Going to be playing about with it and benchmarking as time permits. I'll add benchmarks and pics as and when I can

All in all very happy with it so far

Heaven 3.0, native res (1366x768), high settings, stock Samsung driver (8.944.2.1000 whatever that is?)

No tessellation
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Moderate tessellation
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Normal tessellation
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DiRT 3, native res, all high, 4 x MSAA

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Street Fighter IV Benchmark, all high, native res

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BF3 is actually smoother with dual graphics disabled. I'm hoping the next official driver for the APU+7670M sorts it as there is loads of potential (the auto detect tool doesn't even recognise the hardware yet). On a mix of high/medium with no AA it runs between 20-50FPS depending on what you're looking at/explosions etc. There is some extreme dips but not many. I haven't done extensive testing/tweaking yet though. It's about the same with dual graphics switched off but noticeably smoother in feel.

Race Driver GRID and DIRT2/3 run very well, as does Deus Ex HR , Sonic Generations, Portal 2, Renegade Ops, all of the above at native res. I actually do have a Minecraft account, haven't played fo ages as it's a complete time sink. I'll give it a bash later for you, LoL I can't guarantee
 
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Just had a quick go on Minecraft. Using the built in APU graphics adapter (7660G) it gets a rough average of 38-45fps flying high above the ground with loads in view, the level was still building I think too. AFAIK Crossfire doesn't work in windowed mode, or at least historically it hasn't. I might get a chance to play a bit more later today and see what it can do full screen

Here's some snaps. According to the client I have Java 32bit installed and the 64bit Java increases performance with Far draw distance somewhat

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Edit: With the 64bit Java installed Minecraft is distinctly quicker. Hovers around 60 now, with dips to 45 occasionally
 
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These aren't gaming laptops by any stretch, but having the ability to play the odd game here and there is nice :) AA kills framerate in nearly every game, memory bandwidth I believe

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GRID at max settings, native res, no AA. ~30 something is as low as it gets, with lots going on on-screen
 
BF3 is only causing ~30-40% load on the 7670m. MSI Afterburner isn't fully aware of the hardware either, it thinks there is 4 GPUs and can't show memory usage. Lowering settings in game don't improve performance much at all, hopefully it means a driver update might drastically improve dual graphics performance

DiRT3

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Appalling quality YT vid of said benchmark. Recording at decent quality really saps the performance :(

Max settings, no AA, native res. Very playable and looks LOADS better than XBOX lol


Also poor quality capture of gameplay

Max settings, this time with 4 x MSAA, native res. Very playable even while recording

Just realised I was uploading a YT vid while benching

Crysis Warhead runs very well in a mix of Gamer and Enthusiast settings, which is pretty impressive considering what it does to desktop systems. Makes good use of both GPUs and really gets them hot - 70c, the highest I've seen
 
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Aye, usual Norton virus needed removed (not a typo), Norton Online Backup For Retards, a load of Samsung backup programs and a few other items. Took no time at all. This one is getting the 128GB M4 SSD out of my other laptop next week I think, and I stick this 1TB drive in an optical SATA HDD caddy. The hard drive is fairly quick for a 5400rpm affair but it is definitely a bottleneck
 
Haven't really had them on full song. I'll try tomorrow sometime. Also, found the 12.8 beta drivers, BF3 is now passable on 64 man servers. Mostly low settings mind, I'd rather have less eye candy and not die because I couldn't move :p
 
Been playing Radio 1 at full blast, it's a bit tinny if you know what I mean. Not bad and doesn't distort

Another DiRT vid


What does everyone use to recode videos for Youtube? 5 minutes comes to about 4.5GB recording full frame. Using the AMD video encoder reduces it to 300MB MPEG1, but the quality is a bit naff
 
Idle it is silent, there is a silent running mode that puts the CPU into it's lowest power state and turns off the dGPU and fan. Does WoW support CF? The 7670M is in between the GT630 and 640 according to NoteBookCheck on it's own
 
Can you update us on how you installed the SSD and caddy as I have one of these and want to put an SSD in it to up the boot speeds and things :-)

Haven't gotten round to it yet, had to unexpectedly travel to London over the bank holiday and only really home now. I've used a DVD drive SATA hard drive adapter before though, and installing Win 7 on an SSD is just the same as HDD so any questions fire away ;)

Would be interesting to see what the performance is like with faster memory. (If its supported)
Reasonable gains in the Tom's review, worked well with Llano also. :)

Edit: Looking around at a few other Trinity laptops, can not believe that some are being released with only 1 dimm. Single channel memory configurations gimping entire setups. Average consumer won't be aware of the issue and will just have a very uninspiring laptop... Adding a second stick of memory massively boosts scores.

From Wiki, the mobile versions of Trinity only support a maximum of 1600MHz memory, probably due to power saving VS desktop parts. Some mobile Trinity chips (the ulv ones) only support 1333MHz too
 
No idea sorry. Did you run the tests in High Power mode? Some switchable graphics solutions can do things like only activating the dGPU when plugged in etc. That screeny would suggest that it is in fact using the Intel GPU

Try the obvious first - grab the latest driver from AMD's site
 
Give this driver a go if you fancy it

http://www2.ati.com/DriverS/mobile/12-8_mobility_vista_win7_win8_64_dd_ccc_whql.exe

AMD Catalyst™ Software Suite Version 12.8 Release Notes
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This article provides information on the latest posting of AMD’s software suite, AMD Catalyst™12.8. This particular software suite updates the AMD display driver and the AMD Catalyst™ Control Center and the AMD Vision Engine Control Center. This unified driver has been updated and is designed to provide enhanced performance and reliability.
Package Content

The AMD Catalyst software suite 12.8 contains the following:


AMD display driver version 8.982
HydraVision™ for Windows Vista® and Windows® 7
Southbridge/IXP Driver
AMD Catalyst Control Center version 8.982/AMD Vision Engine Control Center version 8.982.
Caution !


The AMD Catalyst Control Center/AMD Vision Engine Control Center requires that the Microsoft® .NET Framework SP1 be installed for Windows XP and Windows Vista. Without .NET SP1 installed, the AMD Catalyst Control Center/AMD Vision Engine Control Center will not launch properly and the user will see an error message.

Notes.


When installing the AMD Catalyst driver for Windows operating system, the user must be logged on as Administrator or have Administrator rights to complete the installation of the AMD Catalyst driver.
The Catalyst driver requires Windows 7 Service Pack 1 to be installed.
These release notes provide information on the AMD display driver only. For information on the ATI Multimedia Center™, HydraVision, HydraVision Basic Edition, Remote Wonder™, or the Southbridge/IXP driver, please refer to their respective release notes found at: http://support.amd.com/.
AMD Eyefinity technology is designed to give gamers access to high display resolutions. As pixel count grows, the graphics “horsepower” required to drive the displays at a reasonable frame rate can increase dramatically. Depending on the game and system configuration, users may notice texture corruption and reduced frame rates when running games in multi-monitor Eyefinity modes.
Windows Driver Model (WDM) drivers are no longer bundled in the AMD Catalyst software suite. The WDM drivers install bundle can be downloaded independently through the AMD website.

AMD Product Compatibility


The AMD Catalyst driver is compatible with the following AMD products.

AMD6741.1 = "AMD Radeon 6600M and 6700M Series"
AMD6763.1 = "AMD Radeon E6460"
AMD9803.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics"
AMD9804.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics"
AMD9805.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics"
AMD9807.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6290 Graphics"
AMD68E5.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6300M Series"
AMD68E4.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6300M Series"
AMD9802.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics"
AMD9806.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6320 Graphics"
AMD9643.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6380G"
AMD6760.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6400M Series"
AMD6761.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6430M"
AMD9648.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6480G"
AMD68C1.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6500M/5600/5700 Series"
AMD9647.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6520G"
AMD68C0.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6570M/5700 Series"
AMD6750.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6600A Series"
AMD9641.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6620G"
AMD6740.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6700M Series"
AMD68A8.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6800M Series"
AMD6720.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6900M Series"
AMD6842.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7000M Series"
AMD9809.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics"
AMD9808.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7340 Graphics"
AMD9992.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7420G"
AMD6742.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7500/7600 Series"
AMD990A.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7500G"
AMD6841.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7500M/7600M Series"
AMD9990.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7520G"
AMD6840.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7600M Series"
AMD9907.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7620G"
AMD9903.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7640G"
AMD9900.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7660G"
AMD6843.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7670M"
AMD682D.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7700M Series"
AMD682F.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7700M Series"
AMD6825.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7800M Series"
AMD6827.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7800M Series"
AMD6800.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 7970M"
AMD9649.1 = "AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6480G"
AMD68E0.1 = "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series"
AMD68E1.1 = "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series"
AMD68C7.1 = "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5570"
AMD68A0.1 = "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series"
AMD68A1.1 = "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series"

Working fine for me, good improvement in performance all round. Getting notebook drivers can be a bit of a headache. OEMs don't bother updating their drivers, AMD don't want the hassle of supporting notebook users with driver problems. FWIW it I had the same kind of issues with the last Nvidia laptop I had the misfortune to own
 
Hmm, dunno sorry. The CCC (or Vision Engine or whatever it wants to be called now) seems to be pretty good at setting everything up right. Only old dx9/OGL games need to be "forced" into high power (it actually asks to be fair, but after the game is closed). You're at the mercy of Dell's driver afaik, it picks which GPU to expose when. Obviously you can force as you say, not a major headache

Edit: remember that the CCC in my laptop is looking after both GPUs, so it has a head start I guess
 
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Been playing some Sleeping Dogs today, just started but I think it's excellent. A great port that runs really well too

Uploaded videos of the game running with CF on and off but won't link here as it contains far too many swearies :eek:
 
Forgot all about this thread :o Yes still very happy with it. If buying for gaming go for something with a better GPU, Crossfire support is very hit and miss. For example Far Cry 3 does not put any load on the 7660g at all, which is annoying because 25% or so higher frame rate wouldn't go amiss for the mix of medium settings I'm running it with (30-45FPS)

As an all rounder it's great, the A10 impresses me considering how "inferior" it is to my i7 SB work laptop, and this has a better battery life too
 
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