Got vs Gotten?

BowdonUK said:
As long as people can understand you then who cares.
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The end justifies the means eh.

Works just fine as long as your clique has an agreement on what meaning you're trying to convey.

But when you interact with others not familiar to your customised use of the language then the meaning can be completely obliterated.

There is pigeon english mashed up from poorly taught english and other languages which can be quite unintelligible if you're not a local. They understand each other so it's fine right?
 
[FnG]magnolia said:
As in "I'd gotten off my nut on heinous drugs at EDM raves in the 90's so many times that in later life I was only able to post on forums about how terrible everything is and felt like a laboratory rat"?

Go for it :)
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My what a chip you have in your shoulder, I feel sorry for you.
 
adolf hamster said:
Isn't it more a flow thing like a/an, like "i've got sick of this" versus "i've gotten sick of this".

There's no real difference in meaning it just makes it flow more naturally.

There are worse things for making you sound stupid, like pronouncing acceptable "asseptable" rather than the correct "ackseptable".
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Pacific! When people say that to me I think, what the ocean? What the **** do they think that they're saying?
 
Many americanisms are due to the fact that their english was seperated from ours in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.
 
Angilion said:
In English English, "gotten" only survived into modern times in the phrase "ill-gotten" to describe something acquired in an illegal way (and even that seems to have fallen out of use).
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I understood that was related or derived from begotten, as in to cause, create, effect, spawn... so in that instance not so much "gains gotten through ill" but closer to "gains born of ill". Slight difference perhaps, but the ill is the cause of the gains not the means or method.
 
English grammar rules are hilarious, this thread is arguing over wether a word that fell out of use a couple of centuries or not is still allowed to be part of the English language. I guess it all depends on when your particular line in the sand was drawn, I for one would just let the language progress and evelove as it always has with words and constructs comming and going as they fall in and out of common use but that doesn't suit those who love rules and want everything to be like it was when they were young.
 
[FnG]magnolia said:
As in "I'd gotten off my nut on heinous drugs at EDM raves in the 90's so many times that in later life I was only able to post on forums about how terrible everything is and felt like a laboratory rat"?

Go for it :)
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Although it stands for "Electronic Dance Music", the acronym EDM refers to a specific music genre that wasn't around in the 90s. Hope this helps improve your English skills. :)
 
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