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GPU £250 for Adobe

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I need a graphics card for £250 that supports GPU Acceleration in Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 and CS5

any suggestions.
 
nVidia = CUDA - The only one that will do it in CS4/CS5.

CS6 is the only one that supports OpenCL afaik so AMD would only be considered then.

Just get the best nVidia card you can for your money.
 
I unfortunately have no advice to offer but am interested in the suggestions. Why "get the best NVIDIA card you can for your money"? How much will GPU acceleration be affected by a better card?
 
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/what_is_cuda_new_uk.html
(What is CUDA?)

NVIDIA's Quadro range has cards with drivers co-developed with professional software manufacturers such as Adobe.

http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/quadro-adobe-cs6-uk.html

If its for serious workflow where stability, compatibility and maximum uptime are essential then this is what you should buy:

http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/product-quadro-2000-uk.html

If its a hobby/ occasional use NOT critical to earning a living then, as mentioned above, get the best NVIDIA GTX card you can for the money.

All NVIDIA cards will accelerate Adobe products. ONLY Quadro has a SPECIFIC Adobe driver and is heavily optomised for professionals.

http://www.nvidia.co.uk/page/ws_partner_certified_drivers.html
(Choose your relevant Pro software manufacturer - as you can see - NVIDIA are STREETS ahead of AMD in the pro graphics arena)

GeForce = toys
Quadro = tools

;)
 
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The nvidia quadro range seem to start around £400 which is certainly out of my budget and perhaps the OPs. Only the older 512Mb GDDR3 ones come in around £100 and have many less cuda cores than the newer 560 series.
 
pilsburypie said:
The nvidia quadro range seem to start around £400 which is certainly out of my budget and perhaps the OPs. Only the older 512Mb GDDR3 ones come in around £100 and have many less cuda cores than the newer 560 series.
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Which is why I went into so much detaiil in my post above, and asked the OP how 'serious' an Adobe user he is ;)

if you search on fleabay or google like I just have, there's a new one going for £219 + shipping from the US. ;)
 
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The detail was appreciated.

As I have a distinct lack of understanding in this area can someone explain why the Quadro 2000 would be better than say the GTX570 which has many more cuda cores?
 
The drivers for the Quadro are more optimised to this sort of work, where as the 570's drivers are coded to bring out the best gaming performance.

So thanks to the driver optimisations, Quadro will generally accelerate better than the 570.

Could try find a second hand Quadro card if you want to save some money?
 
cheers. Although looking at these results produced by Sony, the £200 GTX 570 looks to be a very good bet...... better than the £1500 Quadro 5000 (From a video editing with Vegas point of view)
 
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pilsburypie said:
The detail was appreciated.

As I have a distinct lack of understanding in this area can someone explain why the Quadro 2000 would be better than say the GTX570 which has many more cuda cores?
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Its all down to you matey - is this for work or just generally playing around with Adobe? Read on....more detail :D


pilsburypie said:
cheers. Although looking at these results produced by Sony, the £200 GTX 570 looks to be a very good bet...... better than the £1500 Quadro 5000 (From a video editing with Vegas point of view)
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Vegas will only support CUDA when handling AVCHD files iirc.

Just to be MEGA clear....

Its only worth buying the Quadro if the OP is using Adobe for WORK....ie...NEEDS the machine to work flat out all day every day producing WORK that will earn him money. Quadro is built for PROFESSIONALS. The value proposition of Quadro is BOMBPROOF stability, compatibilty and functionality in a professional system environment running PROFESSIONAL software....topped off with incredibly high levels of after sales support. (If you have a problem with Adobe on Quadro, they will be all over it like a fat kid on a cupcake......if you are using a consumer card with professional software like Adobe, you WON't get the same level of support)

Think of a Taxi driver.....MUST have a safe and reliable car in order to go out, pick up fares and in return....get paid. A clapped out banger that breaks down every day will be of no use. Similarly, neither would a 2 seater sports car in the outer hebrides when you could only pick up one passenger with no room for luggage, and the rough terrain would simply knacker it! :)

A strange analogy some may think but the point is of paramount importance.....CHOOSE THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THE JOB!

As I stated in my earlier post....if the OP is using the machine for general use, gaming, facebook etc and the OCCASIONAL hobbyist buggering about session with ADOBE's suite,....then a Quadro is unnecessary.

A GTX 570 would give a great boost in Adobe and IS supported CUDA wise.
It is, however, optimised for games.

The Quadro range is DESIGNED by NVIDIA to run Adobe, and Adobe design features of their software to run on Quadro. They even co-write drivers for specific cards and software packages. Other Pro software houses such as Autodesk and Dassault also work with NVIDIA in exactly the same way to enure the ultimate hassle free experience for a huge variety of professionals. This should speak volumes itself.

Hope this helps...

If in doubt, just remember:

GeForce = Toys
Quadro = Tools

Here's a couple of video's to look at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rWcvcdy_sk&list=PL942DC77735BC79CA&index=62&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr6_0Gict5I&list=PL942DC77735BC79CA&index=58&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfs2Rl09yKc&list=PL942DC77735BC79CA&index=59&feature=plpp_video

and here's a great one explaining CUDA/ GPU processing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGiale6nf9o&feature=related



:)
 
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pilsburypie said:
Could you be a little clearer? Not quite got the jist;)

Thanks:cool:
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lol. Not aiming to patronise.....its just an area that is tricky to grasp if you're unfamiliar with Quadro/ pro software. Namely the part where people ask themselves "WHY THE BLOODY HELL should I pay 3 times the price for a Quadro when I can just use a GeForce?":D
 
As AndyOcUK said a Quadro is the preferred choice for professionals using the Adobe products. Having said that I'm a professional using Adobe CS6 and I bought a GTX670 for my latest build and its perfect.

Lots of full time Adobe user's use GTX570's and 580's as well, if you look at the Adobe Premiere Pro forums you will get a better idea. Some of the most well known posters on there stick to the GeForce cards.
 
You haven't patronised me at all. In fact been very helpful in explaining a subject I have little knowledge on.:)

The Quadro cards are out of my league in price and I am no pro.......
 
pilsburypie said:
You haven't patronised me at all. In fact been very helpful in explaining a subject I have little knowledge on.:)

The Quadro cards are out of my league in price and I am no pro.......
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No worries :) as mentioned, GeForce will still be great :)

wissel said:
As AndyOcUK said a Quadro is the preferred choice for professionals using the Adobe products. Having said that I'm a professional using Adobe CS6 and I bought a GTX670 for my latest build and its perfect.

Lots of full time Adobe user's use GTX570's and 580's as well, if you look at the Adobe Premiere Pro forums you will get a better idea. Some of the most well known posters on there stick to the GeForce cards.
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Yeah, performance wise a 670 will batter a Quadro 5000 with ease.....its a whole new architechture :)

Kepler based Quadro should be out by the end of the year.

OP...Wissel is the guy you need to listen to now. I'm a hardware expert that requires some knowledge of software to understand the hardware.....Wissel is an actual user of the software at, what I'd imagine, is a pretty decent level. QED, if you want in depth advice on the software, speak to the people who use it :D

Hope this all helps :)
 
I'd have a look at a GTX480:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-124-EA&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1830

Sure it's older compared to the GTX570 but it's just as quick, it's cheaper and it has more VRAM. For CUDA enabled applications it's the best bang for the buck. 480 CUDA cores for £185. Not to be sniffed at :)

Edit: I've just seen OCUK have refurb 570's in for £150. I'd probably still take a new 480 over a refurb 570 but at this price it's very good value for money.
 
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B Grade GTX480 here for £179.99 (with 3 year warranty). The stock cooler on this Gigabyte model is much more efficient than the stock cooler on the EVGA GTX480. It will dump more heat into your case though so I'd make sure your extract fan is working :)
 
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