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GPU tribalism. Is it a thing?

HRL

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HRL

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Can’t we all just get along? :D

I’m a little demanding when it comes to purchases but ultimately I just want the best performance for my money, but that doesn’t necessarily mean best VFM. Tried for a 3090 at launch but failed to get one, though that may yet be a blessing in disguise.

Am I alone I’m not caring whether it’s Nvidia or AMD that manufacture your GPU of choice?

Or are there really people that will only buy from a specific manufacturer due to some misplaced brand loyalty?

Not looking to start an argument over which is best, just interested if it’s actually a thing.

Phew, managed to write that without using the dreaded F word once... :p
 
Brand loyalty to is not a thing to me But I’ve been forced to buy nvidia year after year because amd couldn’t compete at the level I required.

I’ve also got for a 80 series card and have a 2080ti amd haven’t given me anything to turn my head there way yet. I hope amd will be competing one day for my money on my main machine. My kids both have 5700xt in there pc’s.

I really hope that amd this time around turn my head with pure power in gaming to match the 3080 I have preordered and also in ray tracing also. I know for a lot of people ray tracing isn’t something that’s important yet. But with both consoles having that feature I can see it becoming a much more important part of a gcard.

It’s down to amd now
 
I was quite indifferent to RT when I purchased a 2080Ti but unless AMD can do something specifically for RT I think I’m a little reluctant to purchase something that doesn’t do it justice.

Once you’ve seen RT put to good use, albeit it pretty limited so far, I think I’d rather have it than not.

Ball is firmly in AMD’s camp right now though. Roll on the 28/10.
 
It's been a thing for as long as I can remember, 3dfx/ati/nvidia/matrox etc

It's never going away, but it is amusing reading the blinkered opinions in this forum :D
especially at the moment :p
For me, I don't give a monkeys for who makes the card, I've owned most types over years, and enjoyed them.

I did have a soft spot for 3Dfx as that was the very first wow factor for me all those years ago, sweeping around the Unreal intro castle, just magic :cool:
 
The problem largely stems from lack of realism in discussions.

Every time it's "amd gonna bring the pwn" or "nvidia prices are reasonable for the effort they put in", neither of which are ever true.
 
If Nvidia and AMD both made a card with the same price tag and performance I’d probably buy the AMD card... (I do own a 1080 right now and had 2x280x’s before though)

Probably the same with CPU’s too. Although saying that I’ve never had a self built intel system... :o (Had Intel laptops.) Then again Ive never shopped top end CPU so that’s not a massive surprise really.

Then again I support Newcastle so I obviously like an under dog/enjoy pain. :D
 
TrM said:
Brand loyalty to is not a thing to me But I’ve been forced to buy nvidia year after year because amd couldn’t compete at the level I required.

I’ve also got for a 80 series card and have a 2080ti amd haven’t given me anything to turn my head there way yet. I hope amd will be competing one day for my money on my main machine. My kids both have 5700xt in there pc’s.

I really hope that amd this time around turn my head with pure power in gaming to match the 3080 I have preordered and also in ray tracing also. I know for a lot of people ray tracing isn’t something that’s important yet. But with both consoles having that feature I can see it becoming a much more important part of a gcard.

It’s down to amd now
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Nobody has forced you to buy nvidia you choose to. What caught my attention was why you buy everyone else the 5700XT? Why not comment that mid range or lower AMD is actually better - seeing as you have at hand access to comparing them fairly?

I dont mind people being sucked into raytracing, however to say consoles have it, yet AMD are inside these consoles makes me question your logic especially pre-ordering the 3080?
 
HRL said:
I just want the best performance for my money, but that doesn’t necessarily mean best VFM. Tried for a 3090 at launch but failed to get one, though that may yet be a blessing in disguise.
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The 3090 was always set up to be nowhere near the optimal VFM option.

In answer to the title, yes of course tribalism is a thing, and it is a perfectly natural outcome of a healthy human trait. It's the same with every industry, it's just more pronounced the more overlap there is in terms of competition. Cars, phones, sports, politics... we have millions of years of selection to thank for it; those that were most successful in competing with their their opposition survived to pass on their traits, the others did not. It also drives the desire for the development of family, community, and as an economic extension of that, the businesses and brands you see people waiving flags for today.

Add in a healthy dose of cognitive dissonance and people will behave in a manner that seems very unreasonable to justify their position, even in the face of overwhelming evidence that they're incorrect.
 
Better asking is tribalism a thing. It is. Choose any topic under the sun and you'll find people taking sides. Salesmen know people are emotion driven and exploit it. It's not changing anytime soon ;)
 
I'd happily go with either brand and have had just as many of either in the past. But Nvidia drivers do seem more reliable from my experience so if they had the same performance/price ratio I'd side on nvidia.
 
HRL said:
Am I alone I’m not caring whether it’s Nvidia or AMD that manufacture your GPU of choice?

Or are there really people that will only buy from a specific manufacturer due to some misplaced brand loyalty?
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I use to not care but more recently being going with nvidia because I need the extras it has.
NVENC has came a long way and while AMD have AMF can be hit/miss in quality, speed and software compatibility. Originally I used QuickSync when it was the best but that was annoying because you had to enable the iGPU and in some software the main monitor had to be plugged into it luckily with ffmpeg you could just render straight using it.

When it comes to actual software engineering, nvidia api has been a god send, this use case doesn't matter anymore but basically with DirectX Games if you're hooking into them you could use the nvapi to get the depth buffer which (in DX10+ its shared so thats why it doesn't matter) then you could use in custom shaders etc, AMD solution was a weird hacky thing where you had to call specific functions in a specific order but if DirectX wasn't initialized with very specific parameters or you weren't using a specific driver it just wouldn't work.

I need to look at the new game works APIs but its definitely what nvidia are more helpful with.
 
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