Poll: Grammar Schools back on the table.
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What happens to the children that don't make it into a grammar school?
That's just the way it goes.
I can see this being a good thing if it's done the right way, but I don't have much faith in the government in doing so.
Que 20 years from now "Grammar schools to be phased out, turned into Academies".
What a tragic waste of time.
Government needs to take a step back from Education for awhile, i don't see how teachers can possibly get meaningful data/results if the goal posts/rules/whatever change every 5 (or less) years.
What a tragic waste of time.
Government needs to take a step back from Education for awhile, i don't see how teachers can possibly get meaningful data/results if the goal posts/rules/whatever change every 5 (or less) years.
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Not everyone is academically gifted. Rather than trying to meet the needs of those who are and who aren't in the same school and failing both, they'll now be better able to focus on what kids actually need.
I accept that children are of differing abilities.
This will just create a two tier education system with the best teachers only wanting to teach in grammar schools, further harming the futures of children.
True but then you have the mixed ability of pupils where those that are still able but maybe less naturally gifted, etc. can learn from what the brighter ones do, etc. if you lump all the not so good ones into one group they have less to measure themselves against and/or inspiration for doing better.
Tories need to stop/be a lot more careful of meddling with education TBH - despite any good intentions or merits of a particular idea the meddling just does more to undo all that - the net effect is actually more negative.
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possibly should be some way of transfer for those that later improve but mixed ability schools / classes are a disaster and work for neither ability levels
Their cheap ass education costs the government a third of that spent on the grammars, nice bit of middle class privileged there.
because some kids don't want to learn or are disruptive to those that do
That doesn't work at all in my experience.
They'll still be able to excel if they have the ability and if not still get an education of a 'standard' level.
Or maybe they aren't getting the right help in the school they are in?
From my experience where it doesn't that has largely been due to lack of resources, etc.
correct, those of lower ability can get of their depth and become disillusioned and the higher ability ones do not get pushed and are dragged down by disruptive kids that are struggling
I went to a grammar school back in the 80s. It was a great education for those that wanted it (I didn't want it 
). The way I saw it, my school offered me an education that was on a par with private schools - an opportunity I would never have had as I came from a poor family.
The changes that I've noticed from then is that all of us in the 80s lived within the borough the school was in. When we were looking at schools for my sons 10 years ago, I asked the school board of our local grammar what percentage of new entrants were from within the borough - the answer was 30%. Some came from as far away as Scotland and had lodgings close by.
When you have a school that promises to output a greater percentage of high achievers, some parents will go to enormous lengths to get their children enrolled. I'm not sure that's necessarily fair. Fix that and I'm all for them.
). The way I saw it, my school offered me an education that was on a par with private schools - an opportunity I would never have had as I came from a poor family. The changes that I've noticed from then is that all of us in the 80s lived within the borough the school was in. When we were looking at schools for my sons 10 years ago, I asked the school board of our local grammar what percentage of new entrants were from within the borough - the answer was 30%. Some came from as far away as Scotland and had lodgings close by.
When you have a school that promises to output a greater percentage of high achievers, some parents will go to enormous lengths to get their children enrolled. I'm not sure that's necessarily fair. Fix that and I'm all for them.