Graphics card for old pc

monke

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Hi all,
I've just gotten an old PC for Christmas and a couple of days into having it the graphics card broke.
Since then I have been looking for budget graphics cards that could work and haven't been able to find any. Im looking for one at around the cost of £150 ish since I'm not playing too many graphics-intensive games.
Could someone please recommend any that could work?
I have a Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H motherboard and an old Lian Li case if that helps.
Thanks.

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monke said:
Hi all,
I've just gotten an old PC for Christmas and a couple of days into having it the graphics card broke.
Since then I have been looking for budget graphics cards that could work and haven't been able to find any. Im looking for one at around the cost of £150 ish since I'm not playing too many graphics-intensive games.
Could someone please recommend any that could work?
I have a Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H motherboard and an old Lian Li case if that helps.
Thanks.

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s/h 5600XT or GTX 1070 best bet around that price.
 
monke said:
No, it doesn't I would just like it to be able to run some of the games that I play on decent fps.
I have the Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU.
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Which games are those?

What was your broken card?

I think brand new, you'd be looking at a GTX 1650 or a 6500 XT, but the 6500 XT will lose performance in a PCI-E 3.0 board. This video suggests it is still faster than the 1650, you can see how much performance it loses here. I must say, neither of those options are considered good (in terms of their performance in modern games, or how much they offer relative to their price and what cards they replaced). Most reviewers consider a RX 6600, RTX 2060 (or Intel A750) the first 'proper' graphics card for a gamer that wants to play new games.

Do you know if Windows has a UEFI or Legacy install right now?
 
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monke said:
Thanks,
Where should I buy one of these from since I don't think they sell from amazon anymore.
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There's a members market on this forum but you have to have a minimum number of time or posts on the forum to access it so FB and auction sites unfortunately is the alternative.

My brothers system with a 980Ti is till playing modern games fairly well and another one to consider is a 1060 with 6GB VRAM.
 
This is a useful reference for GPU relative performance.

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Tetras said:
Which games are those?

What was your broken card?

I think brand new, you'd be looking at a GTX 1650 or a 6500 XT, but the 6500 XT will lose performance in a PCI-E 3.0 board. This video suggests it is still faster than the 1650, you can see how much performance it loses here. I must say, neither of those options are considered good (in terms of their performance in modern games, or how much they offer relative to their price and what cards they replaced). Most reviewers consider a RX 6600, RTX 2060 (or Intel A750) the first 'proper' graphics card for a gamer that wants to play new games.

Do you know if Windows has a UEFI or Legacy install right now?
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I enjoy playing shooter games such as Valorant, which I don't think is too graphics intensive but I have just recently bought Devour.
I'm hoping to get into some other games it's just that right now without a graphics card, I can't play any.
I'm unsure of what card I had previously but I know it was an old one that didn't have downloadable drivers anymore. I think it was an old AMD Radeon ___ HD. Unsure exactly what it was
My Windows has a UEFI install right now.
What card would you recommend? I would prefer to have one for around £150 ish.
Thanks.
 
monke said:
What card would you recommend? I would prefer to have one for around £150 ish.
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In the used market, probably a 1070 as turbo suggested, but the trouble is that most used cards in your price range are at least 3 years old now, potentially 5+ and you have no way to verify their history, particularly as they were likely to have been purchased during the mining boom.

If you can up your budget to £220, but can't stretch to £250, then you could get a new 1660 Super which performs similar to a 1070 and does not have the performance variability/consistency problem that the 6500 XT does. If it HAS to be £150 and new, I think I'd get the 6500 XT, because even though it doesn't like PCI-E 3.0, it is still faster than a 1650 in most cases. It does have a problem though (which PCI-E 3.0 makes worse), in that if you exceed the VRAM (which can be seen with high settings and/or resolutions above 1080p in many games, I think including Valorant) then it loses huge chunks of performance versus cards that are theoretically slower, like the 1650.

monke said:
I think it was an old AMD Radeon ___ HD. Unsure exactly what it was
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It might sounds nuts, but the low-end market has moved so slowly, that some of those old Radeon HD monsters are actually faster than 'new' cards like the GTX 1630 or RX 6400 :o
 
There is nothing new that is suitable.
I'd also say used 1070, but it's so old it doesn't seem like a good use of money.
Maybe just start a new pc fund and throw the money in there instead then think about it again when you have a couple of grand.
 
Tetras said:
In the used market, probably a 1070 as turbo suggested, but the trouble is that most used cards in your price range are at least 3 years old now, potentially 5+ and you have no way to verify their history, particularly as they were likely to have been purchased during the mining boom.

If you can up your budget to £220, but can't stretch to £250, then you could get a new 1660 Super which performs similar to a 1070 and does not have the performance variability/consistency problem that the 6500 XT does. If it HAS to be £150 and new, I think I'd get the 6500 XT, because even though it doesn't like PCI-E 3.0, it is still faster than a 1650 in most cases. It does have a problem though (which PCI-E 3.0 makes worse), in that if you exceed the VRAM (which can be seen with high settings and/or resolutions above 1080p in many games, I think including Valorant) then it loses huge chunks of performance versus cards that are theoretically slower, like the 1650.



It might sounds nuts, but the low-end market has moved so slowly, that some of those old Radeon HD monsters are actually faster than 'new' cards like the GTX 1630 or RX 6400 :o
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Thanks a lot for the help,
I'll look into what card I want and will update when I decide or if I need more help.
 
Tetras said:
In the used market, probably a 1070 as turbo suggested, but the trouble is that most used cards in your price range are at least 3 years old now, potentially 5+ and you have no way to verify their history, particularly as they were likely to have been purchased during the mining boom.

If you can up your budget to £220, but can't stretch to £250, then you could get a new 1660 Super which performs similar to a 1070 and does not have the performance variability/consistency problem that the 6500 XT does. If it HAS to be £150 and new, I think I'd get the 6500 XT, because even though it doesn't like PCI-E 3.0, it is still faster than a 1650 in most cases. It does have a problem though (which PCI-E 3.0 makes worse), in that if you exceed the VRAM (which can be seen with high settings and/or resolutions above 1080p in many games, I think including Valorant) then it loses huge chunks of performance versus cards that are theoretically slower, like the 1650.



It might sounds nuts, but the low-end market has moved so slowly, that some of those old Radeon HD monsters are actually faster than 'new' cards like the GTX 1630 or RX 6400 :o
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Thanks a lot,
I have decided to get the MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super Ventus from Amazon if you can confirm that this card will fit and work in my motherboard and my case.

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monke said:
I have decided to get the MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super Ventus from xx if you can confirm that this card will fit and work in my motherboard and my case.
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I don't know the model of your case, but the 1660 Super Ventus is pretty compact, so I'd be surprised if it didn't fit. Motherboard: there are quite a few profiles using a MSI 1660 Super with your board here (scroll down, "benchmarks for this motherboard", click more, then page 2 & 3) so I'm fairly confident it will work.
 
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Tetras said:
I don't know the model of your case, but the 1660 Super Ventus is pretty compact, so I'd be surprised if it didn't fit. Motherboard: there are quite a few profiles using a MSI 1660 Super with your board here (scroll down, "benchmarks for this motherboard", click more, then page 2 & 3) so I'm fairly confident it will work.
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Thanks so much,
I'm going to wait till the 24th to decide whether I'm going to get it or not but I hopefully will and will update on what I do and if it works.
Once again thanks.
 
I'd go for a used GTX1070 instead of a new 1660 super, can pick those up £100 cheaper for the same performance and 2gb extra VRAM, If going new and spending over £200 then a AMD 6600 would be a better bet.
 
Joxeon said:
I'd go for a used GTX1070 instead of a new 1660 super, can pick those up £100 cheaper for the same performance and 2gb extra VRAM, If going new and spending over £200 then a AMD 6600 would be a better bet.
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Oh wow, your right,
I checked and the performance is even better on some games and the same on others.
I have also just checked and you can get the GTX 1070 ti for less than the price of the normal one. Does it perform better?
Do both fit in my Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H motherboard and old Lian Li case?

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