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Graphics card overkill?

drakulton

drakulton

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Hi All,

I currently have a 4690K @4.6, a 780ti, 3D 1080p monitor and a trackIR system running an old space simulator called Eagle Lander 3D

http://eaglelander3d.com

With all the sliders set to 11 I'm getting only 37fps during the most graphically
intensive part of the sim

Would a 1070 or 1080 give a big bump in fps?

Are there any 1070/1080 owners willing to try the sim (it's free) and let me know what fps they're getting?

If you do try it, you'll need the vista patch which I can upload.

Cheers

d
 
drakulton said:
Hi All,

I currently have a 4690K @4.6, a 780ti, 3D 1080p monitor and a trackIR system running an old space simulator called Eagle Lander 3D

http://eaglelander3d.com

With all the sliders set to 11 I'm getting only 37fps during the most graphically
intensive part of the sim

Would a 1070 or 1080 give a big bump in fps?

Are there any 1070/1080 owners willing to try the sim (it's free) and let me know what fps they're getting?

If you do try it, you'll need the vista patch which I can upload.

Cheers

d
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Is the Vista patch available online ? Also does it work with windows 10 ? I wouldn't mind trying it out seems pretty good but not supported in a long time.



EDIT: NVM found the Vista patch here http://eaglelander3d.com/downloads.html
 
drakulton said:
Hi All,

I currently have a 4690K @4.6, a 780ti, 3D 1080p monitor and a trackIR system running an old space simulator called Eagle Lander 3D

http://eaglelander3d.com

With all the sliders set to 11 I'm getting only 37fps during the most graphically
intensive part of the sim

Would a 1070 or 1080 give a big bump in fps?

Are there any 1070/1080 owners willing to try the sim (it's free) and let me know what fps they're getting?

If you do try it, you'll need the vista patch which I can upload.

Cheers

d
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A 1070/80 would not be overkill, It would be a really good jump in performance and you'd easily reach 60.
 
There is never a case of overkill where graphics cards are concerned. What it will murder now, the sequel will murder it next year.
 
Purgatory said:
Is the Vista patch available online ? Also does it work with windows 10 ? I wouldn't mind trying it out seems pretty good but not supported in a long time.



EDIT: NVM found the Vista patch here http://eaglelander3d.com/downloads.html
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The Vista patch is only available at the Eagle Lander 3D yahoo group but I'll upload a copy to sendspace for folks to download.
All the vista patch does is install an XP era component of directX that the sim needs.
 
A 1080 would be overkill for 1080p gaming. A 1070 wouldn't.

However, I can't see why a 780ti should be struggling with that game at 1080p, so there may be issues with the game itself causing the low fps that won't be improved by stepping up to a GTX 1070 or better.
 
Cern said:
A 1080 would be overkill for 1080p gaming. A 1070 wouldn't.

However, I can't see why a 780ti should be struggling with that game at 1080p, so there may be issues with the game itself causing the low fps that won't be improved by stepping up to a GTX 1070 or better.
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as people are posting there is no such thing as overkill.

your often better buying more than you need as you often keep a gpu for a period of years.

1070 should be about double the performance of the 780 ti.
 
drakulton said:
The Vista patch is only available at the Eagle Lander 3D yahoo group but I'll upload a copy to sendspace for folks to download.
All the vista patch does is install an XP era component of directX that the sim needs.
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Here is the link to the Vista patch

https://www.sendspace.com/file/3epx3v

If you do decide to run the sim, just install this first. The sim starts at 500ft and you have to avoid the boulder field and land safely.

For testing purposes just hit 'shift+G to engage the autopilot. The LM will land automatically and you can view the fps as it gets below 100ft and the small boulders appear.

The sim works fine with windows 10, there is also a comprehensive FAQs for the sim to get the best out of it and set it up optimally which I can also download to sendspace if needed.

More info without having to join the yahoogroup

http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?t=34076
 
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Usually these sims are very cpu-bound because they're not properly multi-threaded, in that case upgrading GPU won't necessarily do much for you.
 
Cern said:
A 1080 would be overkill for 1080p gaming. A 1070 wouldn't.

However, I can't see why a 780ti should be struggling with that game at 1080p, so there may be issues with the game itself causing the low fps that won't be improved by stepping up to a GTX 1070 or better.
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1080 for 1080P is not overkill if you want max settings and decent FPS.

In the division when I had a 1080 at max settings 1080P i got around 50FPS in heavy firefights and then when out in the open I would get anywhere from 40-130+ but you have to remember that yes it may be slight "overkill" for games now, It won't be for games coming out in the next few months.

Better to buy for tomorrow than just this moment.
 
A better graphics card will not make any difference in that game. (I would be astounded if it did)

A 6800 ultra was their best card available when the game was launched in 2004 and a NV 285 was their best when the latest patch for the game was released. in 2009.
 
bru said:
A better graphics card will not make any difference in that game. (I would be astounded if it did)

A 6800 ultra was their best card available when the game was launched in 2004 and a NV 285 was their best when the latest patch for the game was released. in 2009.
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I know it's old but it's still the most accurate moon landing sim that you can fly.
So apart from buying every graphics card on the planet and trying them all out to find the point where a better card gives no increase in FPS, is there any cheaper way of finding the best/fastest card for a specific game/sim?
 
Just ran it on an AMD RX480 + [email protected].

Max fps was 165 when the landing started, which went down to 18fps once you got close to the ground.

This was with all settings at maximum, 1920x1080 full screen & using virtual cockpit 1.

Gpu usage in Afterburner was around 35% at the start & dropped to 15-18% once all the small rocks appeared.

A single cpu core was pretty much maxed out all the time ( 95-100% )

So it looks like it's heavily cpu limited like bru said.
 
MoodyB said:
Just ran it on an AMD RX480 + [email protected].

Max fps was 165 when the landing started, which went down to 18fps once you got close to the ground.

This was with all settings at maximum, 1920x1080 full screen & using virtual cockpit 1.

Gpu usage in Afterburner was around 35% at the start & dropped to 15-18% once all the small rocks appeared.

A single cpu core was pretty much maxed out all the time ( 95-100% )

So it looks like it's heavily cpu limited like bru said.
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Not surprised it is single thread limited and with the opening poster having a i5 4690k @ 4.6 it doesn't leave a lot of room for single thread improvement, not even with spending out on a whole new system.
 
Okay, so if money wasn't an option (it is but I'm asking the great minds here just for info)
What would be the ultimate system that could run a single core optimised game/sim at high clock speeds?

This probably needs moving to another thread or forum... possibly one in Kansas after a tornado.... Hmmm 'red shoes gaming' sweet!
 
drakulton said:
Okay, so if money wasn't an option (it is but I'm asking the great minds here just for info)
What would be the ultimate system that could run a single core optimised game/sim at high clock speeds?
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A watercooled [email protected]+ with some 3200mhz+ DDR4 would currently be the best option I think.

If you waited 3-4 months until the new Intel 7700k & AMD Zen cpus appear then they should / could be around 10-15% quicker than the 6007k in single core tasks, but nobody really knows until reviews appear.

Say they 7700k turns out to be 25% quicker than your 4690k. That's still only an extra 9fps above your current minimum of 37fps.

Only you know whether that would be worth spending £300-£600 on.
 
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