Graphics Card Top 10 AGP?

gt_junkie · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:27

melbourne720 said:
Shall we chuck all the 'OC' 'silent' and 'XXX' editions in there as well

Go for it!!!

I always liked big lists!

gt

melbourne720 · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:27

SkeeterPSA said:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2007/01/10/agp-platform-analysis-uk/

Toms Hardware - AGP roundup. 10th Jan 2007 published.

Yeah, mine is better. More colourful for starters...

And besides, no-one here trusts Toms! :eek:

melbourne720 · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:29

gt_junkie said:
Go for it!!!

I will. Might take a while...

gt_junkie said:
I always liked big lists!

gt

Those long winter evenings must just fly by at your place...

edit: Not that I can talk.

gt_junkie · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:37

melbourne720 said:
Those long winter evenings must just fly by at your place...

edit: Not that I can talk.

It's the Lake District... in winter there's not much more to do!!!

I've just spent the last 2 hours watching paint dry!!! :rolleyes:

gt

gt_junkie · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:41

Reading that Tom's review makes you wonder how old the guy is that's writing it:

Quote: "The Sapphire card requires TWO Molex connectors for power, which is one more than any other AGP card I've ever tested."

He's obviously never seen a 6800 ultra then - they only came out just over 2 years ago!

gt

melbourne720 · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:43

gt_junkie said:
It's the Lake District... in winter there's not much more to do!!!

Lovely part of the world. Went for a curry there and the owner gave us 2 bottles of wine for free.

gt_junkie said:
I've just spent the last 2 hours watching paint dry!!!

gt

I didn't know my company had offices up there

SkeeterUK · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:43

Might not have worked on gfx cards 2 years ago tho.

melbourne720 · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:47

gt_junkie said:
Reading that Tom's review makes you wonder how old the guy is that's writing it:

Quote: "The Sapphire card requires TWO Molex connectors for power, which is one more than any other AGP card I've ever tested."

He's obviously never seen a 6800 ultra then - they only came out just over 2 years ago!

gt

What a noob they have writing that! :rolleyes:

Always talk to the forums for the right advice

And some strongly held opinions, bad jokes, nerdy jokes, ...

<even more off topic> As I type this Crucial is advertising the 10th anniversay memory on XFM - weird?!

gt_junkie · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:50

SkeeterPSA said:
Might not have worked on gfx cards 2 years ago tho.

Just meant as he's chosen to write reviews i'd expect him to be interested enough in them to know about it! :rolleyes:

gt

gt_junkie · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:51

melbourne720 said:
I didn't know my company had offices up there

melbourne720 · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:55

gt_junkie said:
Just meant as he's chosen to write reviews i'd expect him to be interested enough in them to know about it!

gt

Any of us could have done a better job IMHO - and all we'd need for payment is to keep the cards afterwards! LOL

Well, that and some money of course

SkeeterUK · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:56

Lol true enough.

gt_junkie · 11 Jan 2007 at 14:59

melbourne720 said:
Any of us could have done a better job IMHO - and all we'd need for payment is to keep the cards afterwards! LOL

Well, that and some money of course

Nice one! You speak the truth!!!

gt

melbourne720 · 11 Jan 2007 at 15:21

I somehow doubt that an offer of some contract work will be forthcoming

HangTime · 11 Jan 2007 at 21:34

Don't forget that THB just make up figures and interpolate numbers from slower hardware to come up with half of their results anyway

edit: oh and this made me chuckle on the Star Trek Legacy page:

Tom's Hardware Bribe said:
Even though the 9700 PRO has a much lower frame rate than the rest, I'd still consider the game playable as it's not a 'twitch' game, rather more of an RTS.

....yeah right, min fps = 4, average = 7.5. Really playable.

Mitch007 · 11 Jan 2007 at 22:49

SkeeterPSA said:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2007/01/10/agp-platform-analysis-uk/

Toms Hardware - AGP roundup. 10th Jan 2007 published.

aye it's ok and i was shocked at the 7800GS poor performance!

melbourne720 · 12 Jan 2007 at 09:55

HangTime said:
....yeah right, min fps = 4, average = 7.5. Really playable.

You'd have to really love Star Trek to spend a lot of time at that fps...

EffBee · 13 Jan 2007 at 11:49

melbourne720 said:
My AGP buying guide:-

9800 Pro(S/H), 6600 GT(S/H), 6800 GS(S/H), 7600GS (£82), 6800GT(S/H), X800XT(S/H) 7600GT (£118), x1950 Pro (£152)

I'd put your 9800XT somewhere between the 9800 Pro and the 6600GT (nearer the Pro obviously).

This isn't an exhaustive list, merely a buying guide for price ranges that covers most AGP buyers.

Just out of interest where would an Nvidia 6200 come on this list. I'm assuming off the bottom somewhere. What would be really interestin would be a ball park "rule of thumb" number against each card (including 6200) where best card performance is 100 and others are compared against it. At the end of the day a buy ing decision comes down to "OK, for an extra £50 I get 15% extra performance - is that worth it to me?"

melbourne720 · 15 Jan 2007 at 09:18

EffBee said:
Just out of interest where would an Nvidia 6200 come on this list. I'm assuming off the bottom somewhere. What would be really interestin would be a ball park "rule of thumb" number against each card (including 6200) where best card performance is 100 and others are compared against it. At the end of the day a buy ing decision comes down to "OK, for an extra £50 I get 15% extra performance - is that worth it to me?"

I'd put it just before the 6600. The 6200 is one of the funny cards (aka mainstream) where you have all the features like dx9c and SM3 but not the power to use them to the fullest. This happened worst with the fx5 series, where the older ti4 series were faster, and the fx5 had no change against the 9700 Pro.

Generally counting up you get more power e.g. 6200 not as good as 6600 not as good as 6800, but then within each of those you get a second clasifier such as GT. Normally, It would go something like GS, GT, GTO (rare), GTS, GTX - with ATi you have LE, <no clasifier>, Pro, XT.

When you combine the two though, you can get anomalies. Like the 6800 GT is more powerful than the 7600 GS. Also it helps to know some of the history. Like although a x1900 XT is older and has a lower number than a x1950 Pro, it will outperform it.

Hope that helps