Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [16th - 22nd April 2021]

VAR is not to blame for either decision being made :confused:

VAR is there to implement the rules and like it or not, those are the rules around offsides. There always has and always will be marginal offsides, we just never got to see how close they were. I can only assume that peoples complaints are because we're now spending time, discovering something is marginally offside rather than just previously accepting the lino's call.

All this is going to change sooner or later though with more accurate and quicker technology.
robfosters said:
I’m at a loss as to how one is off and the other is on
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Why? It's very simply, the Arsenal forward was ahead of the Fulham defender and with the Fulham penalty, the Arsenal defender was ahead of the Fulham forward.
 
BaZ87 said:
VAR is not to blame for either decision being made :confused:

VAR is there to implement the rules and like it or not, those are the rules around offsides. There always has and always will be marginal offsides, we just never got to see how close they were. I can only assume that peoples complaints are because we're now spending time, discovering something is marginally offside rather than just previously accepting the lino's call.

All this is going to change sooner or later though with more accurate and quicker technology.

Why? It's very simply, the Arsenal forward was ahead of the Fulham defender and with the Fulham penalty, the Arsenal defender was ahead of the Fulham forward.
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Disagree mate.

Fulham pen, the guy was offside as much as arsenal attacker was offside for the disallowed goal
 
These millimeter decisions are ridiculous though. There is no advantage whatsoever which is what the offside rule is trying to prevent. Then add decisions like that penalty and the whole lot just seems a joke. VAR has brought nothing good to the game, its not even enjoyable to watch most of the time these days.
 
I've always been for VAR for offsides, it's a defined rule, it'll only improve as the technology gets better. The argument that the hand is offside is quite possibly the worst take on the whole thing.

What I'm not enjoying are the other decisions where there is no consistency, however I think that is the standard of refereeing more than an issue with VAR.
 
CliffyG said:
These millimeter decisions are ridiculous though. There is no advantage whatsoever which is what the offside rule is trying to prevent. Then add decisions like that penalty and the whole lot just seems a joke. VAR has brought nothing good to the game, its not even enjoyable to watch most of the time these days.
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It's literally implementing the rule, that's not VAR or the officials fault. Sure, maybe the rules need changing, but you can't blame the referees or VAR for it.
 
CliffyG said:
These millimeter decisions are ridiculous though. There is no advantage whatsoever which is what the offside rule is trying to prevent. Then add decisions like that penalty and the whole lot just seems a joke. VAR has brought nothing good to the game, its not even enjoyable to watch most of the time these days.
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I don't disagree with the overall point about VAR but you cannot blame VAR for doing exactly what it's supposed to do.

Regarding millimeter offsides, you have to have a defined point of where a player is on or offside - we've always had and always will have marginal calls around that point. I think the offside rule needs tweaking with measurements being made from players feet rather than shoulders, armpits, shirt sleeves etc but whatever the rule 99% of complaints would disappear as soon as decisions are made instantly and we're not spending 2 minutes analysing them. We'd just accept the decision, like we did pre var.
 
VAR has added more controversy. The opposite of what it was supposed to do. When it was introduced they should have tweaked the offside rule accordingly or just done it like Rugby. If by a still its not clear then go with on field decision. As for the penalty I don't even know how that was allowed. No contact, 100% clear that Gabriel made no attempt or motion to the player, 1 Swan dive later and we're losing to a team who haven't made a single chance against us.
 
Even VAR can’t **** that up. They did their best to find a way to disallow it mind.

Matt Ryan, great header :p
 
CliffyG said:
VAR has added more controversy. The opposite of what it was supposed to do. When it was introduced they should have tweaked the offside rule accordingly or just done it like Rugby. If by a still its not clear then go with on field decision. As for the penalty I don't even know how that was allowed. No contact, 100% clear that Gabriel made no attempt or motion to the player, 1 Swan dive later and we're losing to a team who haven't made a single chance against us.
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As I said, I agree with the general point about VAR. I've always said that the only thing I'd add was an automated system that can rule on offsides - var for subjective decisions is a waste of time. Some of the complaints about VAR are misguided though - it's not VAR's fault that the Arsenal goal was ruled out, the law is that he was offside.
 
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