Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [17th - 22nd June 2020]

The_One said:
Well i did not expect that

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1273375853490118661?s=20
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The problem is yeah, the specific result was his fault but the team played like crud apart from him. We barely got forward, there was almost no link up play. Hard to draw conclusions due to the shutdown and potential fitness of various players but Pepe is the guy who when we bring him on or he starts is the guy driving us forward better than anyone else. In all our toughest games he's basically the only one getting us forward and giving us something to build attacks from...

Nelson and Laca come on, no Martinelli or Pepe? Nelson can barely play football and Laca has been awful for ages. Meh.


As for Ederson, the guy is cracked. I think refs need to crack down on keepers who just rush out and demolish players, how is it because you're a keeper and you can protect yourselves with your arms more easily that it's okay to run full power then jump into someone? I would argue he was hoping to demolish an Arsenal player and instead hit his own, still dangerous/reckless and absolutely played in a way that risked serious injury to others. I think at minimum he should have gotten a yellow. Just because it wasn't a classic studs to the neck/face style keeper 'attack', or on his own player does it make it okay.
 
There was a little bit of hypocrisy last night from Villa. If people remember last season Leeds let them score as Villa had stopped playing, the ref carried on play and Leeds then scored. Everyone knew that was a goal after half time, the manager should have said let Sheffield score.
 
dpbadger said:
There was a little bit of hypocrisy last night from Villa. If people remember last season Leeds let them score as Villa had stopped playing, the ref carried on play and Leeds then scored. Everyone knew that was a goal after half time, the manager should have said let Sheffield score.
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It shouldn't have been necessary though, the media are still solely blaming Hawkeye which has otherwise been a huge success but VAR and the referee should have still got the correct decision between them. It seems the more technology is implemented the less brain power is being utilised and the less freedom officials have to come to the correct decision. I'd rather see mistakes happen due to human error and incompetence than having the technology available and just consciously choosing to ignore it for X reason.

If there were a challenge system Sheffield United could have challenged it but instead we have the officials choosing what they want to review on a whim and lots of inconsistency. VAR was sold as a way to stamp out wrong decisions and injustices but it has failed miserably.
 
mmj_uk said:
It shouldn't have been necessary though, the media are still solely blaming Hawkeye which has otherwise been a huge success but VAR and the referee should have still got the correct decision between them. It seems the more technology is implemented the less brain power is being utilised and the less freedom officials have to come to the correct decision. I'd rather see mistakes happen due to human error and incompetence than having the technology available and just consciously choosing to ignore it for X reason.

If there were a challenge system Sheffield United could have challenged it but instead we have the officials choosing what they want to review on a whim and lots of inconsistency. VAR was sold as a way to stamp out wrong decisions and injustices but it has failed miserably.
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Fully agree VAR should be able to catch this. Surely they are watching it and can signal to the ref to go watch the monitor.
 
dpbadger said:
There was a little bit of hypocrisy last night from Villa. If people remember last season Leeds let them score as Villa had stopped playing, the ref carried on play and Leeds then scored. Everyone knew that was a goal after half time, the manager should have said let Sheffield score.
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Can you imagine the uproar if villa stay up by 1 point, from the team that gets relegated instead of them
 
dpbadger said:
There was a little bit of hypocrisy last night from Villa. If people remember last season Leeds let them score as Villa had stopped playing, the ref carried on play and Leeds then scored. Everyone knew that was a goal after half time, the manager should have said let Sheffield score.
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Don't really agree with this comparison to be honest. Difference between technology/VAR failing and a player slowing down as if they were going to put it out and carrying on when everyone had stopped playing, even if I fully agree you should always play to the whistle. The fact Beilsa gave the goal back suggests even he agreed on some level it was a bit scummy.

Should everyone start giving goals back everytime VAR ***** up and misses a stonewall penalty?

woppy101 said:
Can you imagine the uproar if villa stay up by 1 point, from the team that gets relegated instead of them
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How is it any different to the ref booking Grealish for diving when he was clearly fouled, got straight back up and didn't even appeal for a foul, that ruled out a perfectly good goal in injury time against Palace, screwing us out of a point? Every team can point to at least 1 awful decision throughout the season that cost them points.
 
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