Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [19th - 20th February 2022]

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robfosters said:
What’s happened to MNF?

It hasn’t been on for ages
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I've not checked but I'd guess it's fairly normal for there not to be many Monday night matches in January/February due to the amount of midweek PL and Cup football.

The package of games which includes the Monday night slot is only for 24 matches (despite there being 32 weekend rounds) and those 24 are split between Monday night and Friday night (at Sky's discretion) so there's always been a number of blank weekends without a Monday night fixture.
 
bingham67 said:
Rooney 5 points off Reading to save Derby I hope so what a turnaround that would be.
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The EFL will slap them with another deduction to make sure they are down! Rooney has done a brilliant job, without the deduction they would be mid table with a team of kids and freebies.
 
a1ex2001 said:
The EFL will slap them with another deduction to make sure they are down! Rooney has done a brilliant job, without the deduction they would be mid table with a team of kids and freebies.
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I don’t know why people have that impression of Derby, Rooney has done a great job but he’s had a decent squad to work with. Bielik for example cost them 8m not so long ago, Davies, Lawrence, Sibley, Bird etc all played for a while now.
 
Andybtsn said:
I don’t know why people have that impression of Derby, Rooney has done a great job but he’s had a decent squad to work with. Bielik for example cost them 8m not so long ago, Davies, Lawrence, Sibley, Bird etc all played for a while now.
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He doesn’t have a decent squad, he has a few good players some talented kids and some oldies.
 
a1ex2001 said:
The EFL will slap them with another deduction to make sure they are down! Rooney has done a brilliant job, without the deduction they would be mid table with a team of kids and freebies.
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a1ex2001 said:
He doesn’t have a decent squad, he has a few good players some talented kids and some oldies.
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wonder how much Everton are now regretting taking Lampard over Rooney
 
a1ex2001 said:
That was my understanding too, as lampard is finding it wasn’t the time to take the Everton job!
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Both Lampard and Gerrard are far out of the depth to be taking on a premier league club. Gerrard should have stayed at Rangers for a couple more seasons and Frank needed to go back to the Championship to cut his cloth. I said in a earlier thread when they were both announced that it would be the end of them both which is a shame as I think Gerrard could have ended up as a decentish manager,
 
Out of interest @adam cool dude what were you expecting from Gerrard at Villa? If my 30 second check is correct, he's played 13 league games (which includes playing City, Liverpool, Chelsea & Utd) and has won 5, lost 6 and drawn 2. At the rate he's going they're on for a pro rata points total of 50 points which last season would have seen them finish 11th, which is the same position they finished in. Were you suddenly expecting Villa to produce CL qualification form? Seems a bit unrealistic when he's taking over a side that had picked up 10(?) points in their first 11 games.
 
BaZ87 said:
Out of interest @adam cool dude what were you expecting from Gerrard at Villa? If my 30 second check is correct, he's played 13 league games (which includes playing City, Liverpool, Chelsea & Utd) and has won 5, lost 6 and drawn 2. At the rate he's going they're on for a pro rata points total of 50 points which last season would have seen them finish 11th, which is the same position they finished in. Were you suddenly expecting Villa to produce CL qualification form? Seems a bit unrealistic when he's taking over a side that had picked up 10(?) points in their first 11 games.
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The squad and money they have spent I would expect them to challenge for the top half. Also he has just lost to Newcastle and Watford. It really isn't looking good.
 
adam cool dude said:
The squad and money they have spent I would expect them to challenge for the top half. Also he has just lost to Newcastle and Watford. It really isn't looking good.
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It would be foolish to expect dramatic results right away...it has been a very short period of time and next season will certainly be a clearer indicator of the team's strength.
 
adam cool dude said:
The squad and money they have spent I would expect them to challenge for the top half. Also he has just lost to Newcastle and Watford. It really isn't looking good.
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The rate of points they've picked up would put them in a challenge for the top half :confused: The reason why they're not is because of the form prior to his arrival. And you judge teams on individual performances? Man City lost to Spurs and drew with Southampton, I assume you don't think things are looking good for them too? Judge him after he's been there for a season or two, not 5 minutes.

Re your point about Villa's squad generally. I was thinking about this in relation to the relegation battle recently and I can't think of a time where the middle (if that's the right term) of the PL has been so big. Typically you will have half a dozen genuinely bad teams scrapping it out for relegation, 6 at the top battling for Europe and then the rest with little to nothing to play for beyond February. I don't think there's any genuinely terrible sides in the PL anymore - even Norwich are a half decent side. The consequence of having fairly decent sides down the bottom of the table is that it really compresses the rest of the League (barring the real elite sides). You mention the squad and spending of Villa but you could say the same about so many other clubs too. Pretty much every PL side has spend significant money over the last few years and has a fairly decent squad and it's no surprise that we're seeing so many sides swing from relegation battlers to Europa League challengers within the space of a season or so because the gap between these sides isn't very big.
 
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