Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [7th - 9th July 2020]

The disallowed goal for Bournemouth and now tonights result has probably settled the relegation battle, if it wasn't already. It's disappointing to see Villa (but not Purslow) and Bournemouth go down - Villa are a PL club and Bournemouth buy all our unwanted players. It would have been much nicer to see West Ham and Watford relegated.

A decision on City's UEFA ban is due on Monday. It'll be funny to see them banned but if they don't overturn the decision there will be pretty much nothing left to play for in the remaining games with the top 5 now looking settled.
 
omnomnom said:
West hams fixtures are 6 pointers though. Their remaining games are Norwich, Man Utd, Watford and Villa.

a lot to play for imo
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Thanks to their GD they're 4 points clear of Bournemouth and 5 of Villa. It's hard to see either of those sides picking up that many points in their remaining games, even if West Ham lost all theres. Fingers crossed though.
 
adam cool dude said:
5 subs is just overkill. The lower sides just cannot compete with that.
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Once you allow something it's very difficult to reverse it. The bigger clubs are going to push for it to stay and unfortunately I can see a lot of the mid-table sides following them too. Ultimately the biggest goal for the majority of the other 14 clubs is to stay in the PL and for around 10 of those they'll be significantly advantaged over the smallest few sides.
 
Andybtsn said:
Yeah I wasn't suggesting that people should watch streams, just usually that seems to be the place people tend to watch football. I guess subs are that cheap now you don't need to, I pay for Sky purely for football and they love having Leeds on :D
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Wait until you're in the PL then it'll only be when you play the top 4 :p
 
adam cool dude said:
The main issue is VAR will only overturn if it is a clear and obvious error by the ref.....
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I mentioned it last night but the issue is how they interpret what clear and obvious is. Neil Swarbrick (the ref in charge of var) explained at the start of the season that what they would do is listen to the onfield refs explanation of why he made his decision and only if the explanation made no sense would they then look to overturn the decision.

So for example you could have two identical penalty appeals, one where the ref says he saw the incident but wasn't convinced there was enough contact to be sure it was a foul and another where he says he saw the incident and there was no contact. If the replays show there was contact and a clear foul, the 2nd instance could be overturned but the 1st almost certainly wouldn't as, despite being wrong, the refs explanation kind of makes sense.

Given what we've seen this season it wasn't a surprise that the Kane appeal was overturned - the ref's most likely said he's seen a coming together but wasn't convinced it was enough to give a foul. He was clearly wrong but his explanation made enough sense to justify not overturning it. I've no clue what John Moss said to VAR that could explain why Utd's pen wasn't overturned though.

VAR should be all or nothing. If we're going to take time out of the game to review decisions then we have to end up making the correct decision. At the moment we're spending time reviewing all these decisions, the correct ones are still correct but just taking 30 seconds longer to make and 90% of the wrong ones are still wrong but are taking 2 minutes to make and then we're left with a tiny number of correct overturns.
 
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