Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [9th - 12th April 2021]

Im not sure he pulls him back but yea....kinda 50/50. Certainly not "clear and obvious"

No, he tries to pull back McTominay, makes contact and McTominay does what anyone does when another player is trying to grapple with them, he sticks his arm out. Ridiculous decision and an entirely accidental contact. Football becomes more of a joke every year. Rashford got kicked and an arm to the face either in the box or very very close to being in the box and nothing is given. Then a goal is disallowed for completely accidental contact when McTominay has the ball. He doesn't look back, he doesn't target Son.

Just pathetic refereeing.
 
No, he tries to pull back McTominay, makes contact and McTominay does what anyone does when another player is trying to grapple with them, he sticks his arm out. Ridiculous decision and an entirely accidental contact. Football becomes more of a joke every year. Rashford got kicked and an arm to the face either in the box or very very close to being in the box and nothing is given. Then a goal is disallowed for completely accidental contact when McTominay has the ball. He doesn't look back, he doesn't target Son.

Just pathetic refereeing.

Im not saying he meant to do it...it doesnt change the fact that he has hit him in the face is what im saying. If its a coincidence of trying to get Son to stop grabbing him then fair enough but im not sure it was. Either way, Son drops like a lead balloon which was a bit lol.
 
How a referee can look at a monitor in slow motion and deem that a foul and disallow the goal is absolutely ridiculous. What’s happened to refereeing these last few years honestly.

Surprised Son could go on to score with his eye having fallen out judging by his reaction. Massive ****. Near Lamela levels of reaction from the Martial incident.

Pathetic.
 
Games are no longer won by the team playing the better football. Determined by cheats and incompetent referees who even with replays still get the decisions wrong. VAR has just compounded everything. If VAR was needed for the goal then why was the challenge on Rashford not reviewed for a free kick to Utd.
 
If its a coincidence of trying to get Son to stop grabbing him then fair enough but im not sure it was.

What do you think it was?

Football is turning into a joke of a sport where the most pathetic overacting is rewarded and the easiest way to influence a game is to cheat at every opportunity.

When was the last time a ref ignored a player who is overacting or gave a yellow for a player straight up cheating. Refs actively encourage it. You don't go down after being rugby tackled? No penalty. You act like you will never walk again after someone grazes your arm and thats a foul and a penalty.

That should have been a simple decision for the ref and he gets it completely wrong and it will probably change the outcome of the game. I have no idea if Son was overreacting or if it was painful but thats almost entirely beside the point. There is no reason to think that was intentional and McTominay was away from Son before the contact and he passed the ball immediately. He got no advantage from it.
 
Watching it again McTominay has tried to push Sons arm away, catches his finger on Sons hand and then when they break contact it flicks back and hits Son. The more you see it, the more ridiculous it is.
 
Just saw the replay - it really is a shocking decision to disallow that goal.
Actually felt United played ok. I just hope we can use the injustice as some motivation and give it ago in the second half.
 
Watching it again McTominay has tried to push Sons arm away, catches his finger on Sons hand and then when they break contact it flicks back and hits Son. The more you see it, the more ridiculous it is.
I was hoping to see where Son was caught from the replay because if it's a finger to the eye, every single player goes down. Still not a foul and completely accidental but I'd rather get punched in the face than poked in the eye.
 
What do you think it was?

Football is turning into a joke of a sport where the most pathetic overacting is rewarded and the easiest way to influence a game is to cheat at every opportunity.

When was the last time a ref ignored a player who is overacting or gave a yellow for a player straight up cheating. Refs actively encourage it. You don't go down after being rugby tackled? No penalty. You act like you will never walk again after someone grazes your arm and thats a foul and a penalty.

That should have been a simple decision for the ref and he gets it completely wrong and it will probably change the outcome of the game. I have no idea if Son was overreacting or if it was painful but thats almost entirely beside the point. There is no reason to think that was intentional and McTominay was away from Son before the contact and he passed the ball immediately. He got no advantage from it.

Looking at it in context whether this was or wasn't a foul. It made absolutely zero difference to the goal going in. The fact the referee didn't give a second yellow because it was accidental means why was it a foul in the first place.

Is Bruce Grobbelaar at the top of this match fixing everything?
 
What do you think it was?

Football is turning into a joke of a sport where the most pathetic overacting is rewarded and the easiest way to influence a game is to cheat at every opportunity.

When was the last time a ref ignored a player who is overacting or gave a yellow for a player straight up cheating. Refs actively encourage it. You don't go down after being rugby tackled? No penalty. You act like you will never walk again after someone grazes your arm and thats a foul and a penalty.

That should have been a simple decision for the ref and he gets it completely wrong and it will probably change the outcome of the game. I have no idea if Son was overreacting or if it was painful but thats almost entirely beside the point. There is no reason to think that was intentional and McTominay was away from Son before the contact and he passed the ball immediately. He got no advantage from it.

Ill have to see it again tbh but it looked like a 50/50 and the goal should have stood. When you take the Newcastle game earlier when the lads head was nearly taken off in the box it is lolworthy. Like i said last time United played...there is no corruption here just incompetence.

That or the ref is mates with Goldbridge
 
Ill have to see it again tbh but it looked like a 50/50 and the goal should have stood. When you take the Newcastle game earlier when the lads head was nearly taken off in the box it is lolworthy. Like i said last time United played...there is no corruption here just incompetence.

That or the ref is mates with Goldbridge

It seems to be a common thing though. Both WBA and Sheffield United both scored goals that were worse than that and not disaloud. That's 4 points dropped with a potential for 7 with this game from pure ref mistakes. Maguire also had a goal disaloud against SU so it is basically 8 points dropped from poor reffing.
 
I was hoping to see where Son was caught from the replay because if it's a finger to the eye, every single player goes down. Still not a foul and completely accidental but I'd rather get punched in the face than poked in the eye.

Oh I don't dispute that it could be painful and that most people would go down if caught in the eye but I have played sport all my life and been caught in the eye a number of times and I have never spent the next 5 minutes on the ground. I have never seen anyone in amateur sport do that and I have seen some nasty ones. I mean, if you watch MMA they get gouged in the eye reasonably regularly and they act like I act when it happened to me. Lots of blinking and they need a few minutes to sort their eyesight out. They don't lay on the floor like they have been shot.

All of thats kind of beside the point. It wasn't a foul and was accidental and shouldn't have had any bearing on the goal.
 
It seems to be a common thing though. Both WBA and Sheffield United both scored goals that were worse than that and not disaloud. That's 4 points dropped with a potential for 7 with this game from pure ref mistakes. Maguire also had a goal disaloud against SU so it is basically 8 points dropped from poor reffing.

I think we have had 25 VAR decisions go against us and i believe 11 goals of which 2 i know off the top of my head cost 4 points.

Refs are crap mate.
 
It seems to be a common thing though. Both WBA and Sheffield United both scored goals that were worse than that and not disaloud. That's 4 points dropped with a potential for 7 with this game from pure ref mistakes. Maguire also had a goal disaloud against SU so it is basically 8 points dropped from poor reffing.

https://twitter.com/MarcoRedDevil/status/1381282549515829249

Another classic. Maybe Lindelof should have laid on the floor for 15 minutes and that goal would have been overturned. The level of just awful refereeing in the game is astounding. Its not even comparing apples to oranges.
 
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