Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [19 - 23rd January 2013]
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Just to clarify... When I said they are too good for the championship, I meant that as apartnership they will get bucket loads of goals, and I would expect any team with those two up front to get promoted
. I am not sure either are good enough for the premiership, though I suspect Chris Wood would be fine
. I am not sure either are good enough for the premiership, though I suspect Chris Wood would be fine
Wood isn't hence WBA letting him go
Maybe. Personally I think he has enough about him, and he is only 21. I think we we see him the premiership soon. Not sure he will set the world on fire, but he will get there.
PS. Tomasz Kuzcszak
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David Nugent is OK but has a massive ego, I remember a few years back he got a couple of goals for Burnley early in the season and said he should be in the England squad. Also mouthed off a lot at Pompey if he wasn't in the team.
Of course it is, they will be calling for Pardew out soon and Ashley will go from having done well to being scum they want gone again. They will want Pardew paid off because all of a sudden he's gone from knowing what he was doing to OMG we have no plan B.
Thank god at Everton we didn't act the same way. Moyes had seasons where he finished in or around the top 6 only to then almost get relegated. More fans and chairman need to see that for clubs like ours out of the top 4 that stability is paramount rather than changing a manager every time a bad season comes along.
I imagine if we had sacked Moyes 2004 we would be a championship club now, rather than let him keep his players and add within the finances of the club. What use did changing managers every couple of years and then refund a new manager really do for us. What's it done for Villa?
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A lot of people really don't seem to get that teams outside the top 4, who all currently spend over 140mil on wages, will have good years with 50-60 point finishes and bad years with 10-20 points less, and that is the difference between 16th and 6th often. Newcastle fans are mental, they are having a bad year, its a new team with many championship quality players. In a great season like last year half of the reason they did so well, was because so many other teams did badly, a lot of those teams are doing better, they've had significant injury problems and 40-50% more games than last year up to xmas because of the Euro games, none of that wouldn't impact any club in the league.
The biggest reason those top four are stable there, and that they don't struggle with extra euro games, is the 140mil + squads, quality is debateable for all those teams, they all have dodgy players, but knackered players have more problems.
I still don't think Newcastle will get relegate, the fans attitude and pressure they are heaping on the team isn't helping any, Cabaye back will be a boost but will take games to be at his best. They might get relegated, thats life, and football, unless you're spending double the wages of everyone else, there isn't a team outside the top 5 that hasn't got a realistic chance of being relegated if everything goes wrong in one season. Should Newcastle have strengthened, easy to say now, if they hadn't got injuries and got finished a place or two lower out of Europe last year they could without spending any differently, easily be in the top 6... thats football.
Moyes has had good and bad years, where would they be this season if Baines, Fellani and a couple CB's been in and out of injury all season? IIRC, Colo, Taylor's, Simpson, Cabaye, Tiote, Arfa, those guys have missed between 1/3 and 1/2 the season so far, take Everton, West Brom, Swansea, Liverpool or Spurs and have 6 or 7 first teamers miss 1/3 of the season and see what happens.
More hilariously you've got one Newcastle fan on the forum saying "its because he only plays 4-4-2, it doesn't work" and the other one saying "why is he playing Cisse wide right in a 4-3-3 just to suit Ba"........
A lot of teams with Newcastles debt and problems would be struggling in League one about now, Newcastle have done exceptionally well with an exceptionally generous owner to be back in the prem league, and now Newcastle fans because of one ridiculously good and lucky season, expect the club to be immune to relegation for no other reason than extra games, injuries, and form shouldn't effect them now they are back in the prem league?
Meh simple if you don't move forward you end up going backwards. Newcastle failed to strengthen an already week squad. End if story.
You can't blast around wages and figures. Our wage bill has been slashed and squad depeleted.
AP said before the summer there more room now to get a few bodies in. We dint.
You can sugar coat it in what ever way you won't we where expected to play more games with less players and now paying the price.
You can say wages this wages that but when the manager and chairman have said that there is money for new players and normal wages but we get f all in.
Simpson and Williamson are a joke Perch is even worse.
You can't blast around wages and figures. Our wage bill has been slashed and squad depeleted.
AP said before the summer there more room now to get a few bodies in. We dint.
You can sugar coat it in what ever way you won't we where expected to play more games with less players and now paying the price.
You can say wages this wages that but when the manager and chairman have said that there is money for new players and normal wages but we get f all in.
Simpson and Williamson are a joke Perch is even worse.
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We're going down
Even if you are having a **** season you need to beat the bottom teams, especially at home.
We were dominating with our creative players on, not scoring but had them pinned down and we looked likely to score, than Pardew takes off all our good players to try and hold a lead. He doesn't have a plan B, he can barely seem to cope with plan A at the moment but I'm beyond caring now. We all knew what we needed and they still try to scrimp and save more money, this is what happens.
Ho hum, at least we might win a few in the Champ next year
Also DM stop promoting your muppet credentials. We all know you talk **** and quote bull figures but stick to Arsenal where you are only mildly clueless.
We played 442 which wasn't working, he eventually realised this and switched to 433 but rather than fix it he played strikers on the wing.
Keep up sunshine
Even if you are having a **** season you need to beat the bottom teams, especially at home.
We were dominating with our creative players on, not scoring but had them pinned down and we looked likely to score, than Pardew takes off all our good players to try and hold a lead. He doesn't have a plan B, he can barely seem to cope with plan A at the moment but I'm beyond caring now. We all knew what we needed and they still try to scrimp and save more money, this is what happens.
Ho hum, at least we might win a few in the Champ next year
Also DM stop promoting your muppet credentials. We all know you talk **** and quote bull figures but stick to Arsenal where you are only mildly clueless.
We played 442 which wasn't working, he eventually realised this and switched to 433 but rather than fix it he played strikers on the wing.
Keep up sunshine
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We're going down
Even if you are having a **** season you need to beat the bottom teams, especially at home.
We were dominating with our creative players on, not scoring but had them pinned down and we looked likely to score, than Pardew takes off all our good players to try and hold a lead. He doesn't have a plan B, he can barely seem to cope with plan A at the moment but I'm beyond caring now. We all knew what we needed and they still try to scrimp and save more money, this is what happens.
Ho hum, at least we might win a few in the Champ next year
Iv given up hope and that's saying something...
Unless we can get 2-3 players and stop playing these clowns we are going down...
Subs where totally negative and invited pressure onto us. I understand cabaye off if he was injured but FFS perch on to defend a lead tells it all
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Apparently it has been snowing non stop in Tottenham, looks like the game might be called off.
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Doesn't look great on goals on Sunday
More worried about the train situation than the pitch. WHL has under-soil heating. The trains to WHL are notoriously bad.
Personally, I'm hoping that the game is called off. A friend has my season ticket and I don't want to wait in the snow for him to arrive.
Spurs have said that at the moment the game is going ahead but they're continuing to monitor the situation. If it it called off, it won't be because of the pitch but because of the areas around the ground and the safety of people getting to and from the ground.
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Yep that's the usual problem when it snows
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Laughable bench for Arsenal, let's hope Ramsey and Arshavin (if he gets a chance) decide to have good games. Podolski and AOC are both ill.