Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [21st - 24th Jan 2012]

Pearson has been there a while now and has had a pretty woeful start. Let's be honest, Southamption have had it easy but Bristol City doing the double over you just shows you're just as good (bad) as everyone else in the top 7. Luckily for you, it's only really Reading who I think are good enough to compete for the top two, Cardiff, Burnley, Hull, Boro are all pretty inconsistent.

Bristol have been undersold so badly by terrible management! Injuries aside they are the one team that they we were going to struggle against (new manager syndrome).

Southampton have hardly had it easy we have put excellent performances past the best in the league. I think West Ham are their own worst enemies and will fall apart at some point. You rate Reading but I don't think they are good enough either. Cardiff next tuesday is the real test, next closest team on points and the only team around us to gain like we will if pomp go under.
 
Is that how Gerrard's got away with it so many times? :o :p

So many times? How many times has Gerrard got away with any sort of violent conduct?

There was the Brown incident which the FA couldn't do anything because the ref saw it and I'll mention it because I'm sure you will even though he didn't elbow him, the Welbeck incident, which again the official on the pitch saw and (correctly) dealt with on the pitch.

I can't recall Gerrard every getting let off when the FA's laws have allowed them to retrospectively punish him.
 
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Bristol have been undersold so badly by terrible management! Injuries aside they are the one team that they we were going to struggle against (new manager syndrome).

Southampton have hardly had it easy we have put excellent performances past the best in the league. I think West Ham are their own worst enemies and will fall apart at some point. You rate Reading but I don't think they are good enough either. Cardiff next tuesday is the real test, next closest team on points and the only team around us to gain like we will if pomp go under.

I'm sure you've said a couple of times how easy the Championship has been for Southampton, don't make me go scouting for quotes ;) Plus you were saying how you couldn't wait to participate in Prem talk when your team is there next season, if that isn't someone thinking the Championship is easy I don't know what is! :D

Reading, have just had a 40m investment, they'll only get better I imagine.
 
So many times? How many times has Gerrard got away with any sort of violent conduct?

There was the Brown incident which the FA couldn't do anything because the ref saw it and I'll mention it because I'm sure you will even though he didn't elbow him, the Welbeck incident, which again the official on the pitch saw and (correctly) dealt with on the pitch.

I can't recall Gerrard every getting let off when the FA's laws have allowed them to retrospectively punish him.

OMS mentioned Crouch getting away with his eye gauge, the reason he's got away with it is basically the same reason had the ref seen it real time and not done anything about it

As for Gerrard not elbowing Welbeck WTF?


Clear as day, point of the elbow right in his kisser

EDIT: Just seen the part where you think the ref dealt with it correctly as well, massive :o at that and you had the cheek to label Biz with blind loyalty
 
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By "point of his elbow", you mean his forearm, yes? Or did you have a different anatomy textbook to me as a kid?

Exactly, he jumped while leading with his arm. He doesn't catch Welbeck with his elbow nor does make any 'elbowing' movement with his arm.

And Tom, I've not seen the Crouch incident and have no idea why he wasn't charged. I was only responding to your comment about Gerrard. On the 1 occasion he's hit out at somebody and not been given a red card, he couldn't be retrospectively punished as the ref saw the incident and dealt with it on the pitch. It was Michael Brown too so I'm not sure many people cared.
 
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By "point of his elbow", you mean his forearm, yes? Or did you have a different anatomy textbook to me as a kid?

tbh it's hard to see what caught him first forearm or the elbow (Gerrard got him good), the elbow certainly caught him though
 
Tom, do you play football? That certainly doesn't look intentional, it's really hard jumping to head the ball without raising your arms, it's not like Gerrard was looking at Welbeck and not the ball.
 
Tom, do you play football? That certainly doesn't look intentional, it's really hard jumping to head the ball without raising your arms, it's not like Gerrard was looking at Welbeck and not the ball.

It was Gerrard and Welbeck's a Utd player, that's enough for Tom ;)
 
It was Gerrard and Welbeck's a Utd player, that's enough for Tom ;)

Oh and the fact that Gerrard's a Liverpool player doesn't cloud your judgement whatsoever does it? What are some other belters you've come out with recently? Well there was the one about Suarez and how he would get a game ahead of Pedro and Sanchez at Barca, that was good. Another classic is the whole Suarez has never dived when there's been no contact, that's always a funny one.

Dont play the martyr Baz, you're glasses about as rose tinted as anyone.
 
Oh and the fact that Gerrard's a Liverpool player doesn't cloud your judgement whatsoever does it? What are some other belters you've come out with recently? Well there was the one about Suarez and how he would get a game ahead of Pedro and Sanchez at Barca, that was good. Another classic is the whole Suarez has never dived when there's been no contact, that's always a funny one.

Dont play the martyr Baz, you're glasses about as rose tinted as anyone.

I'd take Suarez ahead of Pedro certainly and I've yet to see anybody find an example of Suarez going to ground without there being any contact since he's signed for us.

Of course I'm bias though, nowhere near as bad as yourself and some others though.
 
I thought that clip that Tom posted could of been a red card.

I'm not convinced that it was intentional though.
 
Bit like Connor Sammon for his so called elbow to the face on Carrick, he got sent off but then it was retracted about a week later, bit to late then though.
 
I'm sure you've said a couple of times how easy the Championship has been for Southampton, don't make me go scouting for quotes ;) Plus you were saying how you couldn't wait to participate in Prem talk when your team is there next season, if that isn't someone thinking the Championship is easy I don't know what is! :D

Reading, have just had a 40m investment, they'll only get better I imagine.

Hehehe yeah it has been easy really ;) just made the last few weeks a little difficult for our selves I guess, got to have a little frustration around this time with a few difficult games. :p (got some of the more fun away games over the next 2 months which will be better)

Reading wont spend in a week. They'll be playoffs at best, next year they'll have the beans for some mad transfers.
 
Tom, do you play football? That certainly doesn't look intentional, it's really hard jumping to head the ball without raising your arms, it's not like Gerrard was looking at Welbeck and not the ball.

While people jump with their arms up what you need to do is, look at where Gerrard starts, look at when the ball gets flicked up and when Gerrard jumps. That is a pretty easy header, its coming straight at him yet he jumps sideways and catches Welbeck, who really isn't that close to the ball.

The video shows, not massively obviously, but for me that Gerrard jumped towards Welbeck with no reason to and caught him on purpose.

Also its semantics in terms of calling it an elbow.... the main part of the contract in his face was the very upper part of the forearm AND the elbow. You have to be really odd to think that an elbow can only be called an elbow if only a tiny part of the arm and only from an angle that means only the corner makes contact can be called an elbow.

I'd take Suarez ahead of Pedro certainly and I've yet to see anybody find an example of Suarez going to ground without there being any contact since he's signed for us.

Of course I'm bias though, nowhere near as bad as yourself and some others though.

The problem is every time you say this you look ridiculous, why, a complete straw man argument...... we all say Suarez has dived a bunch, you say...... show me one without contact.

Your argument is flawed in that, there doesn't have to be no contact for it not to be a dive, being a good cheat doesn't make you any less of a cheat. Suarez runs INTO people, puts his arms all over them then throws himself to the ground.

I just can't be arsed to look through every vid of Suarez since he's been at Liverpool, I bet you there are more than a few dives with no contact... there are a crapload of dives WITH contact... both are dives, he does it a LOT.

He ran over and stood on Kompany, then threw himself to the ground in what can only be called a ballet move of some kind, it was both a blatant dive, an obvious attempt to get Kompany sent off, cheating, and had contact.

He's a diver and a cheat, 99% of players are, its the sheer amount he does it that winds everyone up.
 
I'd take Suarez ahead of Pedro certainly and I've yet to see anybody find an example of Suarez going to ground without there being any contact since he's signed for us.

Of course I'm bias though, nowhere near as bad as yourself and some others though.

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Lol

I wonder (hope) if Baloochelii has chosen the wrong player to stamp on. Parker is the media's golden boy and the disgraceful assault has largely gone unpunished. I wonder if the media will start going after him now he appears to have really crossed the line.


It may be wishful thinking.


The sad thing is that until Lescott brought MMA into the match, I thought it had been played in good grace. Richards and Parker were fine with each other and it all looked pretty amicable and competitive.
 
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