Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [5th - 9th December 2014]

[FrankJH]

I'd go with Mourinho being right with his approach over thrashing his players to injury then.

Always easier with a readily assembed squad near enough to your choice.

LvG inherrited a squad that was basically **** or too old (which is why they left / where not given new contracts).

Not exactly the same situation where Lvg inherrited basically the run down squad from Fergie (who hadnt really been buying anyone for a few years)

Majority of Utd's defenders that were left are made of glass and account for majority of the injuries sustained this season, or are effectively un-tested youngsters from the U21 squad.

Not sure how anyone can blame LvG for these injuries no matter what his training regime is. If it was that bad, everyone would be crock.

 

[fez]

The other obvious fact is that when you have hardly any defenders left in the squad you bring them back from injury early to fill the spaces in the team thus increasing their chances of re-injury.

 

[shipinabottle]

Can't lame LVG for our defender crisis.

Jones, Smalling, Evans and Rafael have all been hugely injury prone over the years, they're made of glass.

Rafael at least performs when he's on the pitch unlike the the others. They need throwing out, because persisting with them has cost us enough already.

 

[dannyjo22]

Not sure how anyone can blame LvG for these injuries no matter what his training regime is. If it was that bad, everyone would be crock.

Why would they all be crock? Surely you can see why that wouldn't be the case That's like saying there was nothing wrong with Moyes methods last year because not everyone got injured. They are not clones.

Fact is Jose has a very good injury record where ever he goes and LVG has a pretty terrible one. Again though, he seems to have accepted that as a by product of getting results faster so you have to live with it. On the radio when they discussed it they said it was obviously working because all the players had started to gel, I don't see that myself. They are getting results though but it sure doesn't look like it's through understanding of each other and a system to my untrained eye.

He will get top 4 now though and that's more important than anything.

 

[jonneymendoza]

Of course you never get any of those in any other league do you.

LoLjonney.

no you dont mate

I don't think it's fair to base the standard of the league on the performance of two teams in one game. Ok United have dropped off since SAF retired, but that was always bound to happen, and things are finally starting to improve. Chelsea are arguably having one of their best ever seasons, not far off 2004-05, City have come back into form in the last few weeks, Southampton are still having one of their best ever seasons despite the last couple of weeks, West Ham are stunning everyone with their position in the league. I don't think the prem can compete with Barcelona and Real Madrid, but then has it ever been able to really? Players will nearly always choose to go to those two teams over any other simply because of their prestige, past and former success, history, facilities, etc.

Yes there are teams that are struggling, like Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton and Spurs, but I'd argue that most of those teams have either overachieved in the past or haven't really ever hit the heights anyway. For whatever reason Arsenal haven't really been the same team since the invincibles era in the early 2000s, Liverpool had an exceptional year last year that they were always going to struggle to replicate this year, Spurs haven't really been a huge team at any time in the prem era, and Everton have consistently overachieved with a small budget and just seem to be having a poor season this year. I think maybe all it is is that people's expectations of the rest of the so-called 'top teams' is too high.

its not just that game.

You just have to look at other teams like spurs, arsenal, liverpool and man city just to name a few tbh.

Southampton weren't that bad they just were not very clinical in front of goal whilst De Gea made some good saves as well. United are in a transitionary phase with the following first team players absent.

Di Maria
Blind
Smalling
Jones
Shaw
Rafael
Falcao

Having potentially 7 first team players out would ruin pretty much any team in the PL. City look rubbish when Yaya Toure and Silva are missing. They are half the side when Aguero isn't playing.

How would Chelsea look without the likes of Terry, Cahill, Fabregas, Costa, Hazard?

Its just retarded to claim that last nights game is either reflective of the PL or Uniteds level at the moment. The fact that everyone has been praising Southampton for their style of football is obviously lost on you. If you paid any attention to the game yesterday you would have seen how high up the pitch we were pressed and how well they did it against us.

i see

 

[Purdy]

Can someone do a step by step tutorial of the multi quote button, preferbly one for those usings their elbows to type

 

[Shamikebab]

It's not worth the effort, if a mod could ban him it would be much easier on them and us for the future.