Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [9th - 13th September 2011]

Just watched MOTD and the Carra penalty was right, they had a coming together then Carra put his arm all the way around the strikers waist, you can't do that.

I also thought the first hand ball was a pen and the 2nd when the guy was sliding along the ground could have been but would have been harsh.

I guess Liverpool fans can feel a little disgruntled though I wonder if they're really a title aspiring side when they're points become dependent on such small decisions; they should be winning games irrespective of them.
 
Neither of the two handballs they showed on match of the day were pens. The first, was it Delap, jumped his hand was out from jumping, EVERY player does this bar none, he didn't move his hand at all from the header, to the contact, whats more is, it was a weak ass header, going straight at the keeper.

Move your hand to the ball after the ball has started moving, penalty, I for one would have given it even with accidental handball if say, it was going straight in the goal, had he been on the line, or it stopped it going directly to a player who would have had a fantastic chance to score, neither were the case, no penalty for me at all.

Same with upson, firstly, he doesn't move has arm, secondly, his arms are where EVERY PLAYER would have their arms, thirdly, it hits his body and then goes up, and it only hits his upper arm/shoulder, AND the contact from the body was either taking it straight out of play anyway, or directing a very weak ball straight into the keepers arms, either way the "legal" contact stopped any danger from the pass, the rest was accidental, and prevented nothing for Liverpool.

As before, that happens on the line to stop a penalty, or that happened on the edge of the box and the ball was otherwise going to someone with a clear scoring chance and maybe, as it was, no way a penalty.

The carragher, its classic case of stupid CB syndrome, can we or the ref tell if Caragher put all his strength, locked his arm and dragged him down, or if he just stupidly put an arm around him but with no strength and it was 2% contact, 98% dive, no...... how can you be sure........ don't put your arm around the player for utterly no reason at all.


Same happened in that other game, Kenny might want them to be the wrong decisions but they were right in that other game with loads of supposed penalties, and right today. They wouldn't have lost if, Henderson or Suarez had finished pretty easy chances, or if Caragher engaged his brain at all and just didn't put his arm around the player.


Bolton, so so bad defensively, Knight so often got caught way wide of the goal, protecting a pointless area, leaving Cahill and Boyata to defend the area actually infront of the goal against normally 3-4 players.

Kevin Davies, not malacious, just a big hulking clumsy idiot with no footballing skill whatsoever, worst "fouler" in the league every single year pretty much for 7-8 years, normally close to twice as many fouls as the next player, he had 30 odd more fouls than Tiote didn't he. He rarely does yellow/red card tackles(though could have gotten both yesterday) but for persistant fouling he should get a red in basically every single game he plays.

Why is it Carlton Cole does the same thing, but wins the ball more often, yet gets fouls called against him and gets yellow cards for it, but Davies does it every game, every year, with zero punishment?
 
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To be fair to Carra, he was probably suffering from concussion after that elbow to the face in the build up to the incident.
Leading with the arm is supposed to be a no no right? well apparently not, teams like Stoke and Bolton get away with it all the time yet when Crouch was at Spurs, even trying to out jump a CB ended up being a foul.

Be interesting to see if he gets the same treatment now he's playing for one of those physical clubs the ref's let get away with murder.
 
Nice to see United playing with pace and movement up front, and in the midfield, and in the defence too.
Just goes to show when someone says the side is pedestrian, that the likes of O'shea, Berbatov, Park, Giggs, Carrick and Valencia are either not good enough, too old, or not right for the club, they might actually be being constructive rather than just having a moan for no reason.
;)

Have to say, Carrick looked Ok yesterday mind, mabye he has had a massive kick up the arse.
 
Yeah Southampton have started very well this season. Ricky Lambert is a very good Championship striker. They might even keep up with Brighton for most of the season, but now we have Vicente!:p(i know, it's just one of those that you can't see working:D)

Did he play yesterday?? I still can't believe the starts to the season either! :cool:
 
Pheww happy we got 3 pts, disappointed that we only managed a 1-0 win for Swansea though...was hoping for a spanking ie 3-4 goals:(

Didnt get a chance to catch the highlights as i was out last night but from reading the match report, Arteta was our best player and Mertesacker had a pretty good game too.

Anyhow happy enough with the 3 pts but still feel we could do much better.
 
Can see how he would have broken his foot, albeit one of the small ones - he got hit on the side/top of his right foot didn't he? Was a definite foul/yellow - but not malicious.
 
Eurrghhh West Brom and Norwish on SS:(...was hoping that there would have been a better game on....guess ill have to watch that instead :/
 
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