GRID2 Cheating me?

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Alright guys,

I did post in the GRID2 thread but it got ignored..... Anyway, made a video so you can see what i mean by the game is cheating me:


Copy and Pasted from Youtube video said:
(Watch the time in the top right hand corner once i go over the finish line)

At the end of each race this keeps happening to me. The game adds on anything from 8 seconds up to 25 seconds for no reason at all.

Stop watch the video from beginning to end and you shall see i still did it in just under 2.48. Yet the game as added on 8 seconds for no reason at all to make it 2.56 which makes me lose 1st place and go down to 3rd.

This is happening in every single online race.

Anyone know why the game is doing this or if there is any solution to this?

Sooo.... Any ideas guys? Been doing some perfect racing, so can't be penalties. It is doing my head in.

Thanks
 
Only thing i could see is that on a couple of occasions you had all four wheels off the track, maybe that constitutes as cutting a corner?

Also at 46 seconds, you have a big slide and hit someone (though invisible), causing sparks, maybe there's a penalty there as well?
 
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I experienced this in Dirt 2 which obviously is a rally game so you can't cut corners, codemasters racing games seem to have very dodgy netcode on pc.

I would race at a reasonable level and not do any mess ups and I would be 10 seconds behind a opponent, which isn't possible...10 seconds in a race is almost akin to nodding off mid drive.
 
What is more interesting than the 8 seconds being added is the difference between the lap time and the race time. Both timers start at exactly the same time (when you start off at the grid) yet the race timer runs slightly slower than the lap timer. By the end of the first lap the lap timer is two seconds ahead of the race timer, the race timer is at 47 seconds when the lap timer is at 49 seconds.

With it being a four lap race i'm thinking that the game has noticed that the sum of all of your laps is larger than the total time, so goes with that.

I don't know what the penalty system is like in grid 2 but there were some places where a harsh penalty system like in Forza would give you a penalty, which could account for the added time (in Forza you get a penalty if you get more than two wheels off of the track)

What i did notice is that the cars behave very oddly at the beginning of the race. Again I haven't played grid so this might just be caused by the games arcade physics (or at least what looks like arcade physics to me) but my first thought was that it was caused by lag in a multiplayer session, so the lag might have caused the timer problems i was mentioning earlier
 
How does lag explain the race time being exactly the same as a real life stopwatch time?

The game lasted from start to finish just under 2.48 seconds, not 2.56? I really do not get it. It isn't penalties either as i have had games where i have started from the front and just blasted around the track perfectly to then get seconds still added on after the race.

Popping my head.
 
Right... Just got my mrs out of bed to sit and watch me to make sure i am not going crazy. I have just done a city track, not touched a single car or a single barrier and still got a 11 second penalty.
 
Yes.

Got another video here where i get 20 seconds of penalties even though i havent touched a single wall or car. It is ridiculous.
 
i'm pretty sure those aren't penalties.

the race timer and lap timer are running at different speeds. so you have some weird networking error going on there and i think it is adjusting your time after the race has finished to try and make sense of the mismatched times.

i noticed you had a lot of cars warping about the track, way more than i am seeing, maybe you have some bad network issues?

and your car stuttered a bit too, was this due to the recording or was it like that during the game.?

i suspect the heart of this problem is that maybe the race timer is controlled by the server and the lap timer is controlled by your pc and something is not working right
 
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i'm pretty sure those aren't penalties.

the race timer and lap timer are running at different speeds. so you have some weird networking error going on there and i think it is adjusting your time after the race has finished to try and make sense of the mismatched times.

i noticed you had a lot of cars warping about the track, way more than i am seeing, maybe you have some bad network issues?

and your car stuttered a bit too, was this due to the recording or was it like that during the game.?

i suspect the heart of this problem is that maybe the race timer is controlled by the server and the lap timer is controlled by your pc and something is not working right

I think you are right.

I haven't played a online pc game in years so might not have my laptop set up right. I know my PS3 is in DMZ. Will this have anything to do with the connection to my router?

I am going to give the online a miss for the time being. Very irritating as i am 1st pretty much every game, yet get knocked back for nothing when finished. I also have a white '!' next to my name, which i have read means i am a very clean driver (which adds to my case i believe).

Bloody computers! :rolleyes:
 
I watched the first lap of the above video and the overall and lap times were just over 5 seconds different...

Something weird going on, the only thing I can think of is one time I had some timers installed for WoW and the Onyxia fight would mess up the add spawns the time was never correct. I can't remember exactly what I did to fix it but it was something like an overclock or hyperthreading in the bios which was to blame.
 
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