Ground Shaking???

Amp34 · 19 Apr 2007 at 11:59

The current threat level is assessed as SEVERE (as of 14th August 2006).

Nice to know they change it regularily.

And they wonder why nobody takes them seriously. :rolleyes:

SunaseIPs · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:01

G-MAN2004 said:
Big Black Man? Racist.

Big Beautiful Man! Gayist.

starscream · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:03

Amp34 said:
Nice to know they change it regularily.

And they wonder why nobody takes them seriously.

Don't be naive enough to think you should not be SEVERELY panicing about the impending doom facing you.

Visage · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:14

starscream said:
Don't be naive enough to think you should not be SEVERELY panicing about the impending doom facing you.

Gay muslim suicide bombing terrorismisticals?

Helium_Junkie · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:18

Amp34 said:
Nice to know they change it regularily.

And they wonder why nobody takes them seriously.

The threat level doesnt exactly change daily :rolleyes:

That's like saying "Lets go to war today, we'll be done by lunch!"

starscream · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:19

Visage said:
Gay muslim suicide bombing terrorismisticals?

Lotto funded Gay Muslim Suicide Bombers

cleanbluesky · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:22

starscream said:
Don't be naive enough to think you should not be SEVERELY panicing about the impending doom facing you.

Do you not believe there is a threat, or are there issues surrounding that threat that you are not comfortable with?

Visage · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:26

cleanbluesky said:
Do you not believe there is a threat, or are there issues surrounding that threat that you are not comfortable with?

Of course there's a threat. There's also a threat that I might be abducted by aliens, hit by lightning, or run over by a bus driven by Elvis. I give the threat of terrorism the same econsideration as I do these other 'threats'.

starscream · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:33

cleanbluesky said:
Do you not believe there is a threat, or are there issues surrounding that threat that you are not comfortable with?

It's a question of proportion. I pay no attention to that website in the same way I don't have a post it note on my fridge saying "Be careful, you may get hit by a bus today"

edit : ^^ driven by Elivis

cleanbluesky · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:34

Visage said:
Of course there's a threat. There's also a threat that I might be abducted by aliens, hit by lightning, or run over by a bus driven by Elvis. I give the threat of terrorism the same econsideration as I do these other 'threats'.

May I ask why you would offer these the same consideration - the examples you have offered suggest that you consider the concept of terrorism to be ridiculous which would seem inappropriate given that many on here have already been effected by terorism

starscream · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:38

cleanbluesky said:
May I ask why you would offer these the same consideration - the examples you have offered suggest that you consider the concept of terrorism to be ridiculous which would seem inappropriate given that many on here have already been effected by terorism

I would first look at the number of people killed by terrorism in the UK each year, and then compare it with the likelyhood of being killed in other ways.

Visage · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:43

cleanbluesky said:
May I ask why you would offer these the same consideration - the examples you have offered suggest that you consider the concept of terrorism to be ridiculous which would seem inappropriate given that many on here have already been effected by terorism

I find the notion that terrorism is a constant threat that should affect our lives is ridiculous.

Even if, god forbid, I or my family were to be affected by terrorism I would hope it wouldnt change my opinion.

For example, if I got struck by lightning, should I subsequently take steps to mitigate the risk the next time I stepped outside? Of course not.

cleanbluesky · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:44

Visage said:
For example, if I got struck by lightning, should I subsequently take steps to mitigate the risk the next time I stepped outside? Of course not.

So you'd shelter under a tree in a thunderstorm?

Amp34 · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:45

Helium_Junkie said:
The threat level doesnt exactly change daily That's like saying "Lets go to war today, we'll be done by lunch!"

But it isn't war, its supposed to represent how likely the UK is to come under attack due to intelligence. Either there is no evidence to move it to Extreme (the top one) which means it should go down again. It is just used as a way for the government to scare people and introduce new laws.

Visage · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:50

cleanbluesky said:
So you'd shelter under a tree in a thunderstorm?

Im not sure of your point - that action is quite dangerous....

My point is simply that there's no mileage in taking excessive preventative action to events that are so unlikely....and even if such an event occurs then it doesnt make it inherently more likely.

cleanbluesky · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:51

starscream said:
I would first look at the number of people killed by terrorism in the UK each year, and then compare it with the likelyhood of being killed in other ways.

How about we take a wider view and compare it to terrorist fighting worldwide?

I believe it is self-evident that we live comparatively safely compared to Africa, Palestine and other areas within the Middle East... which demonstrates that terrorism can have massive devastational effects

We do not suffer HIV infection rates of other countries, although that does not mean we trivialise or mock those who take such issues seriously... why should our attitude be any different to terrorism?

Chronos-X · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:53

Visage said:
Gay muslim suicide bombing terrorismisticals?

Don't forget that they're also peaedos, driving up house prices and tax, preventing the secret to older age (and a cure for cancer) and conspirators against Lady Di.

Richdog · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:53

Visage said:
For example, if I got struck by lightning, should I subsequently take steps to mitigate the risk the next time I stepped outside? Of course not.

I'm a little baffled by the comparison between a natural weather feature and an un-natural violent act such as planting a big bomb with the express intention of blowing lots of people up. Surely there's a lot more chance of being affected by terrorism than hit by lightning these days... and when you factor in the increased risk of terrorist acts due specifically to the circumstances currently affecting the world then the chances increase even more. Not saying it's a given, but it's a very real threat.

However I agree with you that I don't let it bother me, and don't think about it on a day-to-day basis.

Amp34 · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:54

cleanbluesky said:
May I ask why you would offer these the same consideration - the examples you have offered suggest that you consider the concept of terrorism to be ridiculous which would seem inappropriate given that many on here have already been effected by terorism

I find it highly suspect that the government have introduced these terror warnings and new laws recently when the threat of terrorism has actually gone down in the last 5-7 years. Look at it this way, how many people die and how many bombs (averaged over 5 years say) occur each year since 2001. Now look at the preceeding 30 years. The threat of terrorism has dropped in the last 5 -7 years. I remember before 2001 when there were bombs going off every couple of months due to the IRA.

And if you really think we should worry daily about terrorism and change the way we act because of it then the terrorists have won. We may as well hand over the keys to the country to them. Carry on as usual, don't worry about the likelyhood of you dying from a "terrorist incident" (as it is far less likely than most of the thiongs already mentioned in this thread) and get on with your life. That way terrorism doesn't win. Shame the government don't seem to realise that...

starscream · 19 Apr 2007 at 12:56

cleanbluesky said:
How about we take a wider view and compare it to terrorist fighting worldwide?

Why? If I was in Iraq, the precautions I take in day to day life would be entirely different.

I think that changing any of your lifestyle habbits due to the threat of terrorism in a country where attacks are (thankfully) incredibly rare is submissive to their aims.