Groundhog Day

If you read what the writers intended for the story, and it you think about what he learns, the whole thing is supposed to last thousands of years. Incredible.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Studying a subject would be good too, law especially since in american you only need to pass the bar to practice and anyone can take the bar exam. That would mean a life time of education done in a day, next day take the exam.
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Yeah, but without a degree from a respected university you're just going to end up as your Saul Goodman type of lawyer, rather than Tom Cruise in A Few Good Men for example.
 
desires said:
No one would ever know though and your own personal memory is the only thing that persists. Is that rape, or is it a dream?

It's quite a discussion topic. Just how would one go about proving what was happening in Bill's position: is it even happening? There are a number of parallels that can be made to H. G. Wells' Invisible Man.
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No it's rape. Rape is rape. Don't diminish the seriousness of your horrific crimes against women (or men). (or goats).

The reality is an objective one that exists for that period in time. The people are real. The events are real. The pain inflicted short term would be real. The only consequences that would not be real is anything over 24 hours and only to other people.

Surely this film is just about karma in the self inflicted psychological sense. But would everyone adjust harmoniously to their environment given enough time? I don't think so. You may get better at the game and it's rules, but only the one's that you can cope with. Not all men are built equal. Some would surely emerge as calculating monsters of infinite deception rather than emotionally weathered to a zen-like state of belief in the goodness capacity of humanity.
 
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Naffa said:
What do you all think of Groundhog Day?
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I saw it pretty late as well. I loved the idea of repeating the same day until the protagonist 'gets it right'. I like films with weird ideas anyway, so that includes the Truman Show, the Butterfly Effect and Sliding Doors. Kinda like a "what if?" scenario.

Any other examples people can think of?
 
Vonhelmet said:
Gotta be longer, considering the skills he learns and how much he knows about everyone and everything.
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Depends on the person. Someone who is sharp and clever (as Murry is clearly is in the movie) and doesn't waste time working then you can learn the piano and learn a language pretty damn fast IMO
 
I found this interesting:

The Wiki said:
According to Ramis' DVD commentary, Danny Rubin's original script and the film as it was actually released are different in several ways. The original script began mid narrative, without explaining how or why Phil was repeating Groundhog Day. The filmmakers believed the audience would feel cheated without seeing Phil's growing realization of the nature of the time loop.

Rubin had also originally envisioned Andie MacDowell's character Rita reliving the day with Phil, and portrayed the pair as being stuck together in the time loop for far longer than the film showed, possibly for thousands of years (Phil tracked time by reading a page of a book each day and had managed to read through the entire public library).

Reports regarding how long Phil is trapped in the time loop vary widely. Ramis states in the DVD commentary that he believes 10 years pass. However, in an e-mail response sent to Heeb magazine, Ramis said, "I think the 10-year estimate is too short. It takes at least 10 years to get good at anything, and allotting for the down time and misguided years he spent, it had to be more like 30 or 40 years."

According to Stephen Tobolowsky, Ramis told him that the entire progress of Groundhog Day covered 10,000 years. "I always thought that there were nine days represented [in the film], and Danny Rubin, the writer, said that he felt something like 23 days were represented in the movie, [but they lasted] over 10,000 years."
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Well played, Sky, well played.

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