Grub error 17

sunderz

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hi guys and girls!

got a problem booting up my pc, not sure where it started as my GF said last night the pc was playing up but i was next door haveing beers so told her to just leave it off and ill look at it later. i came to fire it up and it didnt it gave me a choice of wich boot configuration to use default last setup haveing 1 sucseful boot in the past and a few more saying a range of sucsefull boots. i just pressed F1 to continue the normal prosses as didnt know what that all meant and it restarted and loaded the spash screen for my motherboard (giggabyte Q6), which i had preveusly disabled, so i knew sumething was up straight away. then went to the "verryfiying DMI pool data" page

then grub 1.5 loading

and an Error 17....


i am stuck from here on, i did a bit of searching but everything i found talked about ubuntu or people running dual OS's, which im not just running windows 7 x64 and a few other HDD's for data storage.

so i have removed all HDD but my C:\ but tha same error occurs

can any one shed some light on my problem? i've tried to give as much information as i can sorry if it's long winded.

regards

chris.
 
Sounds like your BIOS has been reset, i'd go through it making sure the setting are as before, most likely the HD settings are incorrect for Grub to throw an error.
 
ok so the bios is trying to do one thing and grub is saying otherwise and so the error occurs?? so it's just a case of like you said trying to recall the settings on the bios to what they were befor it reset. i wasnt aware that i had set any "special" setings in the bios but ill have a play.
 
any one else had this problem? and why it occured as the BIOS would'nt just mess up like this would it?? and the only thing i changed recently setting wise was the power options in windows from being always on full blast etc, back to the economy setting. (sleep after 5 mins etc..)

regards

chris
 
Windows + GRUB either means dual booting or dodgy windows bootloader (ie. non-legit) in my experience.

edit: try booting from your windows disk and running startup repair
 
ok chears dude. it's legit coppy of windows 7, just tried the BIOS plan but not a chance went to the extreme of shorting the jumper and resetting the BIOS, cos as far as im am aware i had no special setting set in the BIOS and so a reset would go back to default incase i've changed sumething while trying to fix it.

ill try booting from win cd and see where that gets me.

regards

chris
 
GRUB is the GRand Unified Bootloader and is used by Linux and related operating systems. Either you've got a dual boot system or, as Six6siX says, you've got a naughty loader on there to 'crack' Windows 7. We don't need to discuss that here, suffice to say that whatever you had on there before, reinstall it. Your Linux and Windows should work just fine then. :p
 
i've booted from my cd and done a repair and it found one fault.

no system partition was found, and so it rapaired the partition table,

but still the error occurs, now when i had the repair utility open i managed to find an eplorer type window when it askes to find drivers, and my pc even tho had one HDD in it has two showing one/ local disk C:\ and one called boot?? no idea where this has come from.

any more ideas guys?

regards

chris
 
Windows 7 makes two partitions at install, one is a system partition related to boot-up and the other is C:\, so that sounds OK really. Did you try FIXMBR and FIXBOOT? They're different, but related, commands. Try them in the console (command prompt) from the installation disc and see how you get on mate.
 
i tried a system restor but coulsnt find a restor point, not sure if i ever made one (my fault learn from this). ill try the command promt way now as i just used the automated choices offered. thanks for all the pointers and helpers guys

regards

chris
 
If you're really REALLY stuck (FIXMBR and FIXBOOT didn't work, and don't want to faff around any longer) then you could always install Linux at the side of your Windows OS. Just grab an Ubuntu live CD, double click Install to Disk or whatever off its desktop, and tell it to use 5GB for the OS.

You'll lose a tiny (5GB) bit of your hdd, but you'll have a working boot record and loader again. Just set it to boot Windows by default and set the timer to 1 or even 0 seconds. Voila. It's a dirty fix though, so do try everything else first.
 
chears dude, just loaded the boot disk again so ill try all other mothods first then head down that route. had ubuntu on befor i went over to windows 7 just to have a "play" but went straight to 7 then

regards

chris
 
it didnt like the comands you mentioned but wanted to use BOOTSEC.exe i gogoled it and found a "guide" so followed the comants and said it had done summot to the boot record. but just reset and it aint worked but not sure i did it right so going again with it all

regards

chris
 
right followed this guide http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392

and it says after useing the /RebuildBcd

Total identification Windows instalations:1
[1] C:\Windows
Add intalation file to boot list Yes<y>/No<n>/all<a>

ive done both yes and all and both time it stated : ellement not found.

im startgin to get frustrated withe this pc now it ahs been a night mare sinse day 1!!

regards

chris
 
How much important stuff is on there? I've found most PCs can be backed up onto a matter of two or three DVD-Rs. It'd be quicker to just reinstall Windows mate tbh. If that doesn't fix it then you're looking at a dodgy hdd.

If/when you reinstall don't forget to back up things like security certificates (if you use them for email), bookmarks/profiles for your browser, and any files/photos you want to keep. Job's a good un. :D
 
and i can do that if i install ubunto alongside and then get the data off... i dont know what ill lose on the disk it was my windows disk only and so then everything is else where but i might have some file "dumped" in my docs, email aint a problem got that backed up. it's a Gskill sollid stat Hdd and dont want another Hdd go down, had more than ususal go down on this new ish build. could that hightlight a problem with the build?

regards

chris
 
Pass, tbh. You're better off asking in the hard drive part of the forum. If you're only wanting to recover data you don't need to install Linux/Ubuntu. Just run it from a live CD (or better yet live USB) and burn off your data onto DVD-R or USB storage.
 
right well i found an old HDD to slap windows on and then back evrything up then start again but this drive has stuff on too is there any quick way of copy stuff on comand promt without getting invalid path or cannot find file errors some files it will copy with the copy comand but xcopy no luck at all! im doinf it just like the guids o've found say and just nowt.

regards

chris
 
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