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gta4 killer!!!

IMO GTA4 is not worth spending all that money on! There are better games out there,Rockstar just screwed the version up thats all! Instead of making a good PC port,I think they was more bothered about making that lost and damed for xBox live.
 
really? ive actually played gta4 on my mates pc which has 295gtx and dual core processor at 4.2ghz and wasnt that impressed!
is the game maximised to use dual gpu?

There's his problem right there, dual core processor. It really needs at least a tri-core CPU.
 
I don't mind saying that my mates PC which is the same as mine (cpu, OC, RAM, resolution etc) is quite a bit faster with an 8800gtx than my 4850. Maybe the extra vram I don't know. My benchmark is 39/40 his is 48/49

It will be as GTA 4 favours Nvidia cards, the 8800 GT wallops the 4870 in it. :D
 
Why, it runs at ~30fps at 720p (640p) with low details/draw distance on the consoles so 48fps at 1920*1200 is actually quite good.

the fact it also ran like crap on the consoles doesn't change the fact its poor by "port" standards. the console version might run 30fps in SOME area's, but take a trip over a bridge at night with the lighting effects and it chugs along painfully slowly as in many other area's.

Its a turd, and the stuff they forced to be installed with it, the generally widespread instability, the ridiculous memory usage keeping in mind that the console's have what 256mb gpu mem, similar system mem, even if you run "similar" settings to the consoles the supposed memory usage indicated is massively inflated.

Some people might even go as far as to suggest that the memory usage counter in game is inaccurate and merely there to persuade people a 1gb memory card would be a great upgrade, for the cynical among us anyway.
 
Hmm. I have i7 [email protected], gtx 285 and I can play gta iv with an average of 60-70fps with draw distances much farther than consoles, and its at 1680x1050. Everything maxed with my nvidia settings to quality over performance. My card is not oc'd.

btw, the game runs super fast and smooth. reminds me of when i had a geforce 7900gt oc'd and played san andreas on a dual core thinkin it just ran sooo much better on pc than ps2.
 
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I have a 295GTX and can play this game at 2560x1600 maxed out settings +16xAF.

You just need to disable the games memory limit, that limits you from turning up the games settings to full when there is not enough VRAM (at the settings above it uses about 1.5GB+).
Then you need to disable the OS from paging to the HDD, so instead it uses system RAM.
When doing this there doesnt really seem to be any performance hit with this game and it's totally playable, but i do have 12GB DDR3 @ 1600mhz.


Oh and GTA4 is not "badly coded" these kids have no idea what they're on about. The game has many visual improvements over the consoles and higher res textures. Run the game at 1280x720 (which is 720p console res, or even lower on PS3 - 640p) on around 30% of maximum settings and your'd have console type graphics. On them settings it will run fine on any half decent card.
 
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I am the friend the op is talking about.
The framerates during play are between 35-50 fps. Game is very playable but
As everyone knows, the game is pants
 
GTA4 is a horribly coded game, I get a max of like 31fps with my set up. Yet Crysis runs at 40fps. I think once I get my Phenom II my FPS will increase a fair amount =]

You have a 3.11 ghz amd dual core, what did you expect :eek:?

Get a proper cpu...




Anyways a GTX 280 should handle it maxed no problems, provided you have a fast Quad core cpu... The game indeed favors nvidia cards over ati cards.
 
I have a 295GTX and can play this game at 2560x1600 maxed out settings +16xAF.

You just need to disable the games memory limit, that limits you from turning up the games settings to full when there is not enough VRAM (at the settings above it uses about 1.5GB+).
Then you need to disable the OS from paging to the HDD, so instead it uses system RAM.
When doing this there doesnt really seem to be any performance hit with this game and it's totally playable, but i do have 12GB DDR3 @ 1600mhz.

Paging nearly half of the video data across the PCI-E bus from main RAM entails no visible performance penalty?

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Well either that or the game is still overriding your selections to stop itself falling over. It cannot possibly be transferring that much data from main to video ram without taking a huge performance hit.
 
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Paging nearly half of the video data across the PCI-E bus from main RAM entails no visible performance penalty?

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Well either that or the game is still overriding your selections to stop itself falling over. It cannot possibly be transferring that much data from main to video ram without taking a huge performance hit.

No it's not overriding my settings, everything is on maximum and it's definately using the highest res textures. Others have done this too BTW, but i'm not sure how well it works for others with slower DDR2 and dual channel RAM... and disabling OS HDD paging was my own idea.
But out of any game i've tried GTA4 is the only one that does not really take a performance hit by doing this, it does sometimes make certain objects pop-up if you turn around really quick, but for the most part theres not much difference and it runs perfect.


You have a 3.11 ghz amd dual core, what did you expect :eek:?

Get a proper cpu...

Anyways a GTX 280 should handle it maxed no problems, provided you have a fast Quad core cpu... The game indeed favors nvidia cards over ati cards.

You dont need a quad to run this game well. On my i7 GTA4 barely uses more than 17% CPU usage. Thats not even maxing out ONE core, granted the i7 is faster than any AMD CPU but a dual core 3GHz+ is still easily enough.
 
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but i'm not sure how well it works for others with slower DDR2 and dual channel RAM... and disabling OS HDD paging was my own idea.

Surely the limits of the PCI-E bus would hit before basic memory bandwidth? I am intrigued though, and almost tempted to fire up the game tonight to give it a whirl myself.
 
GTA 4 sure is an anomaly. I get bettter performance from crysis than said game. Having said that i just have a "lowly" dual core. I still love playing it, even if it is sluggish at certain points.
 
Agreed on the fact gta iv is fun to play no matter what. And seriously 30fps? I had the same gtx285 bottlenecking like a mofo with my e2200 on stock clocks and I SWEAR I got an average of 27fps. The game was playable enough for me to beat it. Of course I had a lot less settings maxed, mainly the draw distance. The game was fine really unless i was driving really fast or in the middle of a war zone, then it would slow some.

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You dont need a quad to run this game well. On my i7 GTA4 barely uses more than 17% CPU usage. Thats not even maxing out ONE core, granted the i7 is faster than any AMD CPU but a dual core 3GHz+ is still easily enough.

I'm finding that hard to believe... Do you have benchies to back this up ? Because pretty much any site and my own experience says the complete opposite. Especially if you go to a thread with user results everyone with a dual core has really **** fps. I get 80% cpu usage on it...

The game was totally unplayable on a 2.6 ghz c2d, my fps nearly doubled when I went from a dual to a quad. Playing the game at 20-35 fps ( with drops to 15 etc) was absolute rubbish, not fun to play at all.
 
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