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GTX 1060 Vs RX 480 - head to head showdown

SiDeards73 said:
As posted in other thread, this isnt even a decent 480 Custom, i expect the Devil, Nitro+, Toxic and maybe even Strix to be a better card than this.

XFX cooler was horrendous on the 290, this one looks arguably as bad, that DD edition cooler they used i dont rate at all :(

If this card which i think is not even a great 480 custom, meets the 1060, then the decent custom 480's will be even better.
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Well if the Nitro is so far listed as having a 1342 boost clock then really ideas of much over 1400 are perhaps not going to be reached.I would say to be sober minded and not expect too much.

From the 1080/1070/1060 reviews many of the already pre-clocked cards offer very little additional framerate advantages in various titles. Often 1-3 frames is not much. Of course pushing the cards further does seem to get better results but then the throttling may become a factor depending on how good the heatsink/fan combo is on each card.

Really however it seems the best AIB cards for both the 1060/480 will maintain close performance differences. Certain titles favour one or the other. As "Science Studio" often points out Tomb Raider was originally shipped with 970 so as a DX12 title it seems to have Nvidia flavouring just as also seen with Nvidia working with them for HDR. AMD obviously have Hitman and both titles show approx 10 FPS favour to each.

I am more curious in how DX12 will compare in newer upcoming games like BF1 and titles from Microsoft in FH3/GOW/SOT as well as others.

As for 480 AIB being too late and missing sales to 1060 AIB. Well look at how many are in-stock here and see Joker Productions latest video as he highlights 1060 stock situation in USA.

1060 Low to No Stock on AIB
 
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Mr Latte said:
Well if the Nitro is so far listed as having a 1342 boost clock then really ideas of much over 1400 are perhaps not going to be reached.I would say to be sober minded and not expect too much.

From the 1080/1070/1060 reviews many of the already pre-clocked cards offer very little additional framerate advantages in various titles. Often 1-3 frames is not much. Of course pushing the cards further does seem to get better results but then the throttling may become a factor depending on how good the heatsink/fan combo is on each card.

Really however it seems the best AIB cards for both the 1060/480 will maintain close performance differences. Certain titles favour one or the other. As "Science Studio" often points out Tomb Raider was originally shipped with 970 so as a DX12 title it seems to have Nvidia flavouring just as also seen with Nvidia working with them for HDR. AMD obviously have Hitman and both titles show approx 10 FPS favour to each.

I am more curious in how DX12 will compare in newer upcoming games like BF1 and titles from Microsoft in FH3/GOW/SOT as well as others.

As for 480 AIB being too late and missing sales to 1060 AIB. Well see Joker Productions latest video as he highlights 1060 stock situation in USA.

1060 Low to No Stock on AIB
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The 480 custom cards are coming within a week or two so not a huge delay. I suspect they waited to see where the 1060 falls before comitting the clock speeds, etc. To release after the 1060 was the better decision since all the 1060 reviews would no doubt have compared against the reference 480 anyway.

Now when AIB 480's come out they will be compared against the 1060 and that is all that counts. Judging by the clock speeds of 1342MHz, etc being stated, I think they are confident that they will match or beat the 1060's without maxing out the card. Maybe a new driver will be released soon to boost the performance even more.
 
To be honest both are great cards. Overclocking wise, Tom Logan managed 2100mhz with the strix. The 480 we really need to see if AIB cards make any difference.

The 1060 is the clear winner on DX11. RX480 currently winning on DX12.

Will we see any major DX12 implementations before next gen?

It would be better to wait for pascal A-sync support before jumping to conclusions on pascal Vulkan performance though.
 
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In fairness, either the 480 or 1060 is a good card for 1080P gaming. Both cope well and both have their pluses and minuses depending on what games you play. I would personally go for the 1060, purely from a ShadowPlay perspective and how easy it is. I also use Mirilis Action, which does a fantastic job (better IQ) but does come at a bit more of a performance hit. No real need for overclocking on either and the gains seem minimal when doing so but a decent factory OC card might be a better option. Sadly with the RX 480, that isn't an option as of yet but a few weeks should see stock coming in, so not long to wait for that.
 
akarypid said:
Irrelevant. Important question to ask yourself is: Will I upgrade with next gen?

If the answer is no, stay away from the 1060.
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Why stay away from the 1060? If you are saying that because of DX12, do you not think that NVidia will get to grips with it?
 
nashathedog said:
Fallout 4 results show a 290x, 390x, Fury and Fury x all scoring the same and sitting more than 15 frames slower than a 970 and 19 frames behind a 480?
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That doesn't actually surprise me, FA4 is very CPU limited, Maxwell cards have always been far better at dealing with that.
So if anything it indicates Polaris at least has greatly improved on that.
 
humbug said:
That doesn't actually surprise me, FA4 is very CPU limited, Maxwell cards have always been far better at dealing with that.
So if anything it indicates Polaris at least has greatly improved on that.
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I just looked at it, given the RX 480 has beaten a GTX 970 in FA4 indicates Polaris has actually caught up with Nvidia on DX11 Drawcall efficiency.

Thats significant, and great news.
 
Gregster said:
In fairness, either the 480 or 1060 is a good card for 1080P gaming. Both cope well and both have their pluses and minuses depending on what games you play. I would personally go for the 1060, purely from a ShadowPlay perspective and how easy it is. I also use Mirilis Action, which does a fantastic job (better IQ) but does come at a bit more of a performance hit. No real need for overclocking on either and the gains seem minimal when doing so but a decent factory OC card might be a better option. Sadly with the RX 480, that isn't an option as of yet but a few weeks should see stock coming in, so not long to wait for that.
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No performance hit here using AMDAPP with Action, you make sure you using MP4 and Nvidia or AMD encoding? If you playback a recording within Action it will tell you if it was recorded with GPU bottom left.
 
SiDeards73 said:
With Pascal? No... No i dont, i think its as good as your getting with Pascal... watch this space.
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No i don't either, Nvidia run a completely different architecture to whats in Consoles, which are all AMD GCN, that is where DX12 and Vulkan game development is, Nvidia are not capable of running some key performance enhancing features in that at the hardware level.

Nvidia have had as long as AMD to get to grips with DX12 and Vulkan and AMD have had it all up and running since DX12 - Vulkan introduction while Nvidia have been forced to repeat soon'tm over and over again since then.
 
akarypid said:
Irrelevant. Important question to ask yourself is: Will I upgrade with next gen?

If the answer is no, stay away from the 1060.
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Gregster said:
Why stay away from the 1060? If you are saying that because of DX12, do you not think that NVidia will get to grips with it?
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NVIDIA are known to not prioritise optimisation for previous architectures. While AMDs GCN architecture which is improved upon with each generation seems to fare much better with older cards.

See the 290X for example which was once a direct competitor to the 780Ti, the 290X is now ridiculously faster in Vulkan.

The 1060 is a great card for now, but if you're the type to keep a card for years then I would be surprised if the 8GB 480 isn't faster every time in Vulkan enabled games a couple years from now.
 
Gregster said:
In fairness, either the 480 or 1060 is a good card for 1080P gaming. Both cope well and both have their pluses and minuses depending on what games you play. I would personally go for the 1060, purely from a ShadowPlay perspective and how easy it is. I also use Mirilis Action, which does a fantastic job (better IQ) but does come at a bit more of a performance hit. No real need for overclocking on either and the gains seem minimal when doing so but a decent factory OC card might be a better option. Sadly with the RX 480, that isn't an option as of yet but a few weeks should see stock coming in, so not long to wait for that.
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Well Greg I have asked people to demonstrate AMD alternative to shadowplay as the latest software was available around the 12th. Nobody bothered and have not seen a single review bring it up as a feature to cover on both cards so have asked some YT reviewers to consider.

Nvidia do have the photomode thing and multimonitor non stretching (forget names) as benefits to buy a 10 series Nvidia card. Yet how long before many titles support these? Would be great asset especially having non distortion for those with triple screen configs for simulators but if it is unlikely to come to current titles then isnt worth much at the moment perhaps?

AC on a hardware level not via software/driver is perhaps worth more for ensuring good performance with upcoming titles and really as a buyer that has waited for both options at the moment I have to say the AIB 480 ticks more of my boxes as a 1080p 60Hz gamer. It also will have HDR Freesync monitor options in 2017 much cheaper than a Gysnc alternative.

Too many people here fail to see that for the majority of buyers having stable over 60Hz is the main priority. Which these card achieve in most titles and max settings. They have never gamed on anything over 60Hz. So if the 1060 is 5-15 frames faster but doing so at 80 or 90+ frames then it is performance that they will not see nor make much difference to them. They may not even bother overclocking and as pre clocked cards show 1-5 frame differences it is rather moot.

Others of course may want to enjoy more titles at high frames on a suitable display but they are a much smaller group of consumers. These folk may indeed seek the best overclocking AIB models and utilise them on 1440p or high framerate compatible displays.

What might happen, I kinda hope it does is that with AMD now supporting Freesync over HDMI via the RX480 is the appearance of the first 4KTVs to adopt it. Already Sony can support PC gaming with 1080p @ 120Hz even if it has greater lag than a monitor for the average consumer/gamer some are already enjoying it on large screen Tvs. So it would be great to see a Samsung UHD Premium HDR display in 2017 have Freesync upto 100 or 120Hz.
 
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If NVIDIA somehow use their great financial resources to make Pascal get much more performance with Vulkan then great. I'll obviously be more than happy being currently tied to NVIDIA with Gsync.

Right now it sucks compared to AMD's gains and they are currently accountable to that unless they sort it out. I have a feeling it's a hardware problem that'll be sorted with Volta in a few years.
 
Gregster said:
Why stay away from the 1060? If you are saying that because of DX12, do you not think that NVidia will get to grips with it?
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Nope. What you see now is all you are going to get from nvidia on dx12.

They have just done their usual trick of using superior brute force to achieve performance.

I always see Nvidia as a big 6 litre V8 and AMD doing supercharged, twin turbo'd 1.6l engines. Eventually the small engine catches up performance wise with the big V8 lump :D
 
So really it just boils down to the 1060 being a bit better but a bit more expensive.

Right now the cheapest 1060 I've even listed anywhere (and it's on OCUK no less) is £230 but most places start at £240.

The cheapest 4GB 480 I've seen is £175.

The cheapest 8GB 480 however is £220, and I notice nearly every review focuses on that model. I just think the premium being paid is excessive and a poor move by AMD.

In reality AMD should have added more than just memory to the 8GB version and branded it the 480X, then it'd be more competitive and better received.

As it stands the 4GB 480 and the 1060 seem the best bets at their respective price points but they are different price points.

Just really disappointing that x80 and x60 cards that once fought it out at the £150 price now compete at well over £200, and they call it progress.
 
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