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GTX1050 to be launched in October

GTX 1050 2GB @ $119 translates to around £94-100 UK price its the card which will sell a lot due to many many PC gamers simply only need\want a reasonable GPU for 720 or 1080 gaming.

Mainstream sales are always on the lower spec displays which means either 720 or 1080. I will buy a GTX 1050 2GB for a relatives PC build I am doing if its around the £100 mark.

1920x1080 or higher is still niche & GPU's to power those cost way more so margins are tighter & volume is lower compared to the lower end part of the market where they look to shift volume on reduced margins ;)
 
mahius said:
XD Good luck with that. Knowing the current gen of video cards, it will likely be priced at least £50 more lol.
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That is £50 more than a 950, which the cheapest is currently £156.

Now with the cheapest 1060 3GB at only £175, I think it is pretty safe to say, Your wrong. ;)
 
AWPC said:
GTX 1050 2GB @ $119 translates to around £94-100 UK price its the card which will sell a lot due to many many PC gamers simply only need\want a reasonable GPU for 720 or 1080 gaming.

Mainstream sales are always on the lower spec displays which means either 720 or 1080. I will buy a GTX 1050 2GB for a relatives PC build I am doing if its around the £100 mark.

1920x1080 or higher is still niche & GPU's to power those cost way more so margins are tighter & volume is lower compared to the lower end part of the market where they look to shift volume on reduced margins ;)
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With Brexit and VAT Hardware prices usually convert 1:1 $:£, at best.

So we are actually looking at about £120 for the 2GB.
 
humbug said:
With Brexit and VAT Hardware prices usually convert 1:1 $:£, at best.

So we are actually looking at about £120 for the 2GB.
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Sometimes they launch slightly below RRP to grab early market share so I think its going to come just under £100 as that is a psychologically important price point ;)
 
There is two cards to fit in to this bracket, the 1050 and the 1050Ti so I reckon £99.99 and £129.99 as the starting points for each card. :)
 
My prediction,

£100-£120 for 1050, direct competition with the RX460.
£140-£160 for the 1050ti Average performance between the RX460 and RX470, will beat in DX11 but lose in DX12.
 
The RX460 should be a GTX750Ti killer but out of all the ones I've ordered, over half have six pin power connectors - what's that about?

The beauty of the GTX750Ti was that it worked with all manner of OEM systems whose PSU's were either a) lacking a 6pin and/or b) cannot swap PSU due to proprietary design.

I know or two of the 750Ti's also had 6pins, but a lot of the RX cards seem to have them which seems stupid.

If the GTX1050 is faster and like the 750Ti operates totally off bus power, AMD will be left behind again.

The RX460 is pretty decent though in general. AMD's R7 260/360 cards were just a joke compared to the GTX750Ti though.
 
Terrorfirmer said:
The RX460 should be a GTX750Ti killer but out of all the ones I've ordered, over half have six pin power connectors - what's that about?

The beauty of the GTX750Ti was that it worked with all manner of OEM systems whose PSU's were either a) lacking a 6pin and/or b) cannot swap PSU due to proprietary design.

I know or two of the 750Ti's also had 6pins, but a lot of the RX cards seem to have them which seems stupid.

If the GTX1050 is faster and like the 750Ti operates totally off bus power, AMD will be left behind again.

The RX460 is pretty decent though in general. AMD's R7 260/360 cards were just a joke compared to the GTX750Ti though.
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The full Polaris 11 GPU has 14% more shaders than the one in the RX460 and apparently AMD has made both embedded and professional cards using the full GPU with cards consuming less than 75W.

Look at the WX4100 - its bus powered,single slot and low profile:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10521...wx-4100-wx-5100-wx-7100-bring-polaris-to-pros

It seems AMD is using all the decent Polaris 11 GPUs in embedded,professional and laptop areas.

This is why the GTX1050TI will be an easy win over the desktop RX460.

AMD should have made the 4GB RX460 a card with a full Polaris 11 GPU - they have handed Nvidia another easy victory.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The full Polaris 11 GPU has 14% more shaders than the one in the RX460 and apparently AMD has made both embedded and professional cards using the full GPU with cards consuming less than 75W.

Look at the WX4100 - its bus powered,single slot and low profile:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10521...wx-4100-wx-5100-wx-7100-bring-polaris-to-pros

It seems AMD is using all the decent Polaris 11 GPUs in embedded,professional and laptop areas.

This is why the GTX1050TI will be an easy win over the desktop RX460.

AMD should have made the 4GB RX460 a card with a full Polaris 11 GPU - they have handed Nvidia another easy victory.
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AMD did made 4GB RX 460 with full 1024 shaders during development a year ago, I wondered why they never released it so I figured out after read WX 4100 spec.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2874/radeon-pro-wx-4100

I see WX 4100 full Polaris 11 with 1024 shaders has boost clock of 975MHz but has 1,996.8 GFLOPS which is slower than cut down RX 460 with 896 shaders has higher boost clock 1200MHz. I noticed something wrong about WX 4100 pixel fillrate at 15.60 GPixel/s, RX 460 pixel fillrate is higher at 19.20 GPixel/s. It seemed to me that some of Polaris 11 1024 shaders are broken and cannot be fixed after AMD went through a year of nightmares and hells 10 revisions on Polaris 11 and also another 10 revisions on Polaris 10 too. It not worth doing revision 11 for Polaris 11 again to see if it can fix pixel fillrate and push boost clock to 1200MHz stable because it would cost AMD another $150M to fix it but AMD would not risked it as both Polaris 10 and 11 projects are AMD massive failures.

If AMD managed to fixed Polaris 11 last year then $149 RX 460 with full 1024 shaders at 1200MHz would able to compete with GTX 1050 Ti at same price and Polaris 11 with 896 shaders would been called RX 450.

Jen-Hsun Huang said a few days ago that Pascal cost $2bn for 2 years to developed 7 chips GP100, GP102, GP104, GP106, GP107, GP108 and Parker. I noticed GTX 1050 Ti GPU-Z that the die revision is A1, it will be really very incredible for Nvidia to done just 1 revision after first tapeout to get it run properly and capable to OC well on Samsung 14nm process first time while AMD messed up total of 20 times with Polaris 10 and 11 on Global Foundry's 14nm process which was a exactly a copy of Samsung 14nm process. I wonder if AMD had gone through nearly 10 revisions on Vega and screwed up too? We will find out soon.
 
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bru said:
That is £50 more than a 950, which the cheapest is currently £156.

Now with the cheapest 1060 3GB at only £175, I think it is pretty safe to say, Your wrong. ;)
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As I've said many times this gen... I sure hope I am wrong. Unfortunately even AMD have had some dumbass pricing with their GPUs. 470s clashing with 480s in price. And that cheap 1060 is a 3GB founder's edition, on a temporary sale by OCUK themselves. Nothing to say we won't have 1050s at £180/£190.

Most of all... I'm shocked that 950s have crept up in price right now. It used to be that the cheapest 960s were £150ish and the most expensive 950s were £130 ish (the 950 also had the issue of pricing clash with 960). Are you sure you aren't looking in the wrong places at 950s, cos £150 seems far too much. Or is current gen pricing worse than I think it is?
 
mahius said:
As I've said many times this gen... I sure hope I am wrong. Unfortunately even AMD have had some dumbass pricing with their GPUs. 470s clashing with 480s in price. And that cheap 1060 is a 3GB founder's edition, on a temporary sale by OCUK themselves. Nothing to say we won't have 1050s at £180/£190.

Most of all... I'm shocked that 950s have crept up in price right now. It used to be that the cheapest 960s were £150ish and the most expensive 950s were £130 ish (the 950 also had the issue of pricing clash with 960). Are you sure you aren't looking in the wrong places at 950s, cos £150 seems far too much. Or is current gen pricing worse than I think it is?
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I think the only reason why 950 kept is price its because its the only one in its class, small, powerful good for budget gaming. Lets hope 1050/ti will be the successor....the king is dead all hail the king ...
 
AWPC said:
GTX 1050 2GB @ $119 translates to around £94-100 UK price its the card which will sell a lot due to many many PC gamers simply only need\want a reasonable GPU for 720 or 1080 gaming.

Mainstream sales are always on the lower spec displays which means either 720 or 1080. I will buy a GTX 1050 2GB for a relatives PC build I am doing if its around the £100 mark.

1920x1080 or higher is still niche & GPU's to power those cost way more so margins are tighter & volume is lower compared to the lower end part of the market where they look to shift volume on reduced margins ;)
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distribution prices- more savings in higher end 1080 to the 1060 but mainly applied to high priced brands.
low budget brands, prices are pretty much the same % between all series models
 
half the speed for half the money?
doesnt seem that exciting

ive seen some pretty cheap 1060 3gb on my travels
 
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