Sounds like a CPU bottleneck - once you start monitoring you'll probably see the CPU load spike and the GPU load drop.
Task manager/resource monitor aren't great tools for this - you ideally want an overlay like RTSS so that you don't have to switch away from the game (which can affect monitoring) - if the figures e.g. CPU load / GPU Load are overlaid on the screen you can constantly glance at them
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Undervolting and tweaking the GPU will make no difference. Make sure your RAM is running at it's correct speed / XMP profile as that can be worth a good few % if not set. After that then overclocking can help (and the 3770k should overclock pretty well), but it's still a CPU architecture from 12 years ago
I've got Rivatuner installed along with Afterburner on that machine, it's been a while since I've used the overlay and forgot all about it! Cheers
So you should overclock it, try to keep voltage under 1.3V (people say under 1.35V, but I like to keep safer)
You should get at least 4.2Ghz on all cores, I had an I7-3700k running at 4.5ghz and 1.28V
Thanks for the targets, that will definitely help!
Your current GPU may already being bottlenecked by your CPU in some games. Monitor your CPU/GPU usage through afterburner/rivatuner, if GPU is below 90% and CPU keeping over 90% means upgrading GPU won't help you.
Thanks, I'm going to get the Riva overlay going, hopefully tonight.
Angry reaction from one poster, but it's not that poster's money being spent..
I'd only go for it if planning to upgrade the system at some point, otherwise you spend a few hundred quid for a bit more eye candy and similar framerates.
No worries, I'm happy to get all views and I am conscious of the risk of throwing good money at a problem that may not be solvable with the current rig.
One other thing to bear in mind is a RTX 4060 would be limited to PCI-E 3.0 x8 on that motherboard. This may or may not not further reduce performance.
Cheers, this is why I was wondering if the motherboard chipset etc would be an issue. I was mindful of the PCI stuff with my own rig what with the graphics card and the M.2 drives, so I went with an x570 over the b550. I've got a feeling a better GPU is going to be a bit of a waste of time with my son's computer.
I'd definitely have a look into the settings 'n such, esports games used to run on a potato, but with the updates and the higher settings available, it can cause issues.
For £300, there's only one thing it has going for it: low power consumption (similar to the RX 6600). The price/performance for the money is not great (for 2024, or otherwise) and losing 4GB of VRAM from the previous gen is even more of a windup.
It is impossible to say 100%, because like Armageus said, it depends on the game, resolution/settings and your expectations. A 3770K is powerful enough to get most of the performance out of the card in many games (especially if overclocked), but it will struggle with newer AAA games, though I'm afraid the 4060 will too.
Cheers. I was looking at the PassMark charts and whilst I'm aware that they should be taken with a pinch of salt, I still feel they give a decent enough rough guide. The 4060 appeared to be showing similar performance to my 3060Ti FE. Cards just above the 4060 only seemed to show marginal performance improvements but the price would rise quite fast. The lower power consumption could be a blessing as he's got the damn thing running all the time! lol I think the general consensus here is to see if I can get more out of the current setup. Although, I've still to check his Fortnite settings, chances are he's trying to run 1440p at maximum settings...
I don't play Fortnite but that sounds like a CPU limitation, not a GPU limitation. Run MSI Afterburner to check and look for a CPU core pegging at 100% in those scenes (Fortnite doesn't use many CPU cores so trying to look for 100% CPU usage isn't useful). I've done a little digging and the i7-3770 is of the minimum generation to play the game; recommended CPUs are 7th gen+. But Afterburner (or other monitoring tools) will give you a definitive answer. It will also be an instructive lesson for your son in how to solve a problem.
Cheers, will be getting Riva overlay rocking this evening hopefully. Problem solving with Gen Z is bad enough, never mind Gen Alpha!