Guess the Engine

Siliconslave · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:49

Chris1712 said:
Beat you by one minute

bah, could have been seconds!

Zip · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:49

Is it the 800bhp jobby from the pikes peak celica? 2.0 inline 4 turbo'd, dunno the engine code though.

Siliconslave said:
oooh, is it that 2.1l TRD Straight 4 turbo engine putting out about 800bhp

Im not sure if they put it in a celica but you got the horse power right sorta

developing over 1000HP in qualifying tune, 800HP for sprint races, and 600 for endurance events

Chris1712 · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:50

Its from the Toyota Eagle MKIII.

I'd just like to say, thats insane power from a 2.1!

JRS · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:50

Zip said:
Nope

And it can't be a 3S-GTM, unless I'm seeing a different engine.

***edit***

Maybe it can.

Zip · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:51

Chris1712 said:
Its from the Toyota Eagle MKIII.

Not the car. All i want is the engine number because i dont know what cars they put it in

WILD9 · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:51

Hate said:
thats not even an engine and that car uses the 3S-GTE anyway

I meant the engine from an st185 but either way i lose so

Zip · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:52

JRS said:
And it can't be a 3S-GTM, unless I'm seeing a different engine.

***edit***

Maybe it can.

Nah it cant

Edit: Who wants the Engine code given to them?

Sone · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:54

Chris1712 said:
Its from the Toyota Eagle MKIII.

http://www.allamericanracers.com/images/eagle_mk3_d600x300.jpg[IMG]
I'd just like to say, thats insane power from a 2.1![/QUOTE]

wouldent say insane, wern't 80's F1 cars in qulaifying form pusing well over 1000bhp from a 1.5litre engine?

JRS · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:54

Zip said:
Who wants the Engine code given to them?

Go on. I've got to go out in 20 mins.

Chris1712 · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:54

Toyota 3S-GTM L4 4v 2140cc Twin-Turbo

JRS · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:54

Chris1712 said:
Toyota 3S-GTM L4 4v 2140cc Twin-Turbo

Already ruled out.

Chris1712 · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:56

JRS said:
Already ruled out.

The interweb tells me otherwise though, i even the picture of the engine, the very same one with text next to it :confused:

. Twice!

http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/Watkins_Glen-1992-06-28-photo.html

http://www.allamericanracers.com/eagl_mkIII_gtp.html

JRS · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:56

Chris1712 said:
The interweb tells me otherwise though, i even the picture of the engine, the very same one with text next to it . Twice!

Right. In which case, Zip lied to me

Zip · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:57

Chris1712 said:
The interweb tells me otherwise though, i even the picture of the engine, the very same one with text next to it . Twice!

I dunno

They are very similar but nothing alike from what ive read.

Its a Toyota 503E

The most famous and successful Toyota Race engine- the 503E was used in Toyota's Triumphant Championship seasons in IMSA GTO / GTP, Pikes Peak, Le Mans, and in the mid-90s Japan Touring Cup Championship. It is important to note that the 16 valve cylinder head layout from the 152E engine and the T block crankshaft saddle design were used as design base for this ultimate Toyota 4 cylinder Turbocharged race engine. The 503E represented the most powerful 4 cylinders in competition history developing over 1000HP in qualifying tune, 800HP for sprint races, and 600 for endurance events. IMPRESSIVE.

Chris1712 · 23 Aug 2006 at 15:59

Zip said:
I dunno
They are very similar but nothing alike from what ive read.

Its a Toyota 503E

Maybe that was some crazy Australian code? :confused:

Now we've got the same engine, with two codes. Lets find out WHY!

Chris1712 · 23 Aug 2006 at 16:01

I know that toyota (and other teams) state that the 2 liter motor is a 3S-GTM but it's really not. It's a 503E. This has been argued about numerous times on the MR2 owners board and it was finally proven by a board member who posted a website about it. The two motors are similar, both are 2 liter, both are turboed, both are 4 cylinder, but that's it. The block, pistons, crank, etc. are completely different in both motors. You can buy a 503E from toyota for around $15k-$20k.

Chris1712 · 23 Aug 2006 at 16:04

Toyota 3S-GTM 4-in-line, water-cooled, blown. 89.0mm x 86.0mm / 2,140cc. Single Toyota twin-entry CT44-ST turbocharger. Linerless iron block, aluminum head. 5 plain main bearings. Steel crankshaft. Steel con rods. ART light alloy 3-ring pistons. Toyota rings. DOHC, belt driven. 4 valves/cylinder (36.1m inlet – 31.5mm exhaust), 1 plug. Nippon Denso ignition, injection and engine management system. Compression ratio 7.0:1. Borg & Beck triple-plate clutch. Unstressed chassis member. 680 bhp at 8,500 rpm. Weight 140 kilograms.

More random info.

rpstewart · 23 Aug 2006 at 16:04

Sone said:
wouldent say insane, wern't 80's F1 cars in qulaifying form pusing well over 1000bhp from a 1.5litre engine?

Yup the BMW qually hand grenades were estimated to be about 1300bhp in 85/86. Race trim was only about 800bhp though.

Oh and the BMWs were road car blocks that had already done upwards of 60K miles before being rebuilt as racing engines.

Zip · 23 Aug 2006 at 16:04

See i said it was the same but completely different

JRS · 23 Aug 2006 at 16:05

So, quick question - how are we meant to guess the engine code if Toyota themselves state the wrong damn one?