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[H] 680 vs. 7970 - Multi-Display Showdown

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680 vs. Radeon HD 7970 - Multi-Display Showdown

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Sleeping Dogs:

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Max Payne 3:

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'The Bottom Line

Both AMD and NVIDIA have released new drivers very recently that make some tangible steps forward in gaming performance.

How does it change the face of gaming for this Christmas?

Simply put, AMD's new "Never Settle" Catalyst 12.11 drivers are excellent.

As we experienced in our initial evaluation, these drivers have helped propel the AMD equivalent GPUs over that of NVIDIA’s.

We were surprised how much faster CrossFireX really is compared to SLI in today's games in triple-display gaming at high resolutions.

There is a distinct performance advantage for Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition CrossFireX compared to GTX 680 SLI.

We still however "feel" there is also a distinct smoothness advantage with SLI that AMD has yet to capture.

This is subjective call, but all [H]ardOCP editors agree on this.'
 
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Why the hell are they benching different settings? It makes the comparisons pointless.

Poor. :(

Edit: you're poor Tommy, you didn't paste the Apples to Apples results :p.

Edit 2: about a 24% difference at stock clocks so my 28% difference when overclocked results on my 7950s look about right (nice to know) as you would expect them to gain more from overclocking by not being so limited by the memory bus.
 
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Where we all know that the 7900 series performs brilliantly at these super high resolutions, certainly better than the 680's. Just why oh why do they have to mess about with the settings to make things more artificial, if the 7970 ghz editions in xfire are going to crucify SLI680's then do a like for like comparison so we can see by how much, rather than this waste of space.
 
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Old news really i guess, Nvidia at these resolutions can't compete.
The thing i find somewhat annoying with HardOCP is they use different settings and list them as "highest playable in-game settings"

@OP.
Incase you've not checked, Max Payne 3 is using Sleeping Dogs graphs.
 
bru said:
Where we all know that the 7900 series performs brilliantly at these super high resolutions, certainly better than the 680's. Just why oh why do they have to mess about with the settings to make things more artificial, if the 7970 ghz editions in xfire are going to crucify SLI680's then do a like for like comparison so we can see by how much, rather than this waste of space.
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Here's the actual review link - they do an Apples to Apples comparison:

http://hardocp.com/article/2012/12/04/gtx_680_vs_radeon_hd_7970_multidisplay_showdown/1

Not sure why Tommy didn't give the link or provide the Apples to Apples comparison but it doesn't matter he's a good old boy :D :D.
 
Pointless bench, different settings makes it so.

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The apples to apples bench on BF3 has the 680's beating the 7970's at 5760*1200... Again, this proves how wrong paid for bench tests are.
 
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edit: as above, sorry tommy you really should have posted the apples to apples part.

Rustys right though normally hes a good boy :p

 
I'm just happy I beat the review sites to an up to date comparison on latest drivers AND it was far more comprehensive. :D :D

I could have done a stock clock comparison too but I felt people would have been more interested in the overclocked results.

It's interesting that they note that SLI felt overall smoother than CF presumably at the same frames. I noticed a similar kind of thing although not a massive difference. Maybe one of those things you'd notice more and more over time...

The frame graphs are quite spikey on AMD: not spiking between playable and not playable - and to be honest the minimums on the 7970 are well above the average of the 680 - but perhaps it's the constant shifting of frames around which produces the perceived lack of smoothness?
 
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bru said:
edit: as above, sorry tommy you really should have posted the apples to apples part.

Rustys right though normally hes a good boy :p

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Sorry, but how does a single 680 @ that res beat a 7970 in both average and mins? Were they using Gregs 1400+ clocked beast? :P

Reference the "framerate jumps" on the CF7970s. Surely it wouldn't matter that much as the jumps are already over the 60fps threshold? Assuming you're using 60hz screens that is.
 
Dont get it , gtx 680 feels smoother ??????

Sleeping dogs
Radeon 7970 ghz edition - 5760x1200 High Quality - 16XAF, gtx 680 sli not playabel at theese settings but feel smoother ????

Max payne - same settings, so here i can understand that gtx feels smother, even if radeon 7970 has higher avarage fps

Battelfield 3 singel player
Radeon 7970 ghz edition - 5760x1200 4xMSAA - 16AF, gtx 680 sli not playabel at theese settings but feels smoother ????


Battelfield 3 multi player
Radeon 7970 ghz edition - 5760x1200 2xMSAA - 16AF, gtx 680 sli not playabel at theese settings but feels smoother ????

what am i missing since gtx680 is better according to the testers ?????, when gtx 680 sli not are playabel at same setting in 3 of 4 games ???
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You have been here 3 years and still don't understand their review methodology? Either you are a paid troll or intellectually dishonest. Which is it?
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yes i understand the methodlogy and i been reading this for lot more than 3 years, trolling, i state a fact that gtx 680 sli is not playabel according to the testers in 3 of 4 games in this review with same settings as 77970, gtx 680 sli has to lower settings , and when u lower settings u get higher framrates. if they stated that on same settings gtx sli was smother i would have understand it. What is trolling abaut that ?
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Glad it's not just this forum then.
 
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Sorry, but how does a single 680 @ that res beat a 7970 in both average and mins? Were they using Gregs 1400+ clocked beast? :P

Reference the "framerate jumps" on the CF7970s. Surely it wouldn't matter that much as the jumps are already over the 60fps threshold? Assuming you're using 60hz screens that is.
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Maybe Xfire scales better than SLI with this generation, who knows.

As with a lot of these benches now days, those particular figures are close enough to be classed as the same, certainly within the margin of error I would say.
 
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Did I say before? I noticed a similar kind of thing before I swapped. On old, old drivers it was OK again... :confused:
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I have gone through all the drivers since 680 launch to see what can do what (probably a big reason I am fed up with BF3). Not one of them gets the GPU's high and generally they both sit around 70%. I have clocked my CPU to 5Ghz to see if this helped and it was a 'no'.

More in the cards but Nvidia slacking in the usage department.
 
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