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[H]ardOCP - Blind Test 2 (FreeSync 2 Vs G-Sync)
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Wait... FreeSync v G-Sync test and they are using controllers? you might as well just make sure you've got a decent GPU, slap on V-Sync at 30-60Hz and be done. (For controllers a smooth consistent update rate is more important and a small but fixed latency is acceptable over the preference for responsiveness with a more immediate input that is ideal when using keyboard and mouse).
Please tell me I missed something in the video?
I know this video and their past one has been more about the subjective overall presentation of the experience but they've become increasingly irrelevant as to the actual adaptive sync tech used so why they are headlines for the videos I dunno.
Please tell me I missed something in the video?
I know this video and their past one has been more about the subjective overall presentation of the experience but they've become increasingly irrelevant as to the actual adaptive sync tech used so why they are headlines for the videos I dunno.
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I don't think Freesync 2's any different to Freesync 1 if you have LFC support, That's right isn't it?
I haven't watched the video so not sure what criteria they laid down for 'preferring' one over the other. But they were using apples and oranges for the monitors themselves - a VA vs. TN panel. There are huge differences in responsiveness and image quality for the two monitors used. How much of the preferences displayed by users had anything to do with 'G-SYNC' vs. 'FreeSync'? It seems users were quite split, but given how subjective monitors are I don't find that surprising.
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I don't know much but even *I* know that's a horse**** test!! Jesus, what next? Etch-a-Sketch vs IPS?!!!
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I find it very strange Kyle published pointless and very unfair review, why compared Samsung C27HG70 27-Inch 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync 2 HDR QLED Curved Gaming Monitor with ASUS ROG Swift PG27VQ 27-Inch 2560x1440 165Hz G-Sync Curved Gaming Monitor that do not have HDR? Why didn't Kyle asked ASUS to sent a review sample of ASUS ROG-SWIFT-PG27UQ 27-Inch 4K 144Hz G-Sync HDR Gaming Monitor that will be available to retailers by end of April or put review on hold until a manufacturer sent Kyle 27-Inch 2560x1440 144Hz G-Sync HDR Gaming Monitor sample?
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Even AMD had the sense to compare IPS-to-IPS when doing their blind tests in the run up to the Vega launch! Bloody HardOCP morons, gone down a LOT in my estimation (was quite low anyway lol)
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For me there is no contest between Gysnc and Free Sync.
With every Gsync certified monitor you know exactly what you get.
And most importantly you get the full sync at 30 - Max refresh rate of the monitor (144hz). That is key!
You do not get the above with Free sync with every free sync monitor.
I don't even think there is a Free sync monitor out there that can do 30 - max refresh rate (144hz)?
With every Gsync certified monitor you know exactly what you get.
And most importantly you get the full sync at 30 - Max refresh rate of the monitor (144hz). That is key!
You do not get the above with Free sync with every free sync monitor.
I don't even think there is a Free sync monitor out there that can do 30 - max refresh rate (144hz)?
I don't think it's too much to ask for people to do a little basic research before splashing out on an expensive monitor. There are a lot more problems out there than adaptive sync performance. Just don't buy the bad FreeSync monitors (most of which aren't even "FreeSync" certified, but just support generic adaptive sync that happens to work with AMD cards). There's no reason to when good ones exist too. Just jumping in headfirst probably isn't going to get you a G-Sync monitor that suits your needs either. I know that I did more research than is healthy before buying my XG2703-GS (and even then I had to return four of them to get an acceptable one).
Incidentally, there are many FreeSync monitors that support 30-144Hz, like the AOC AG241QX or ViewSonic XG2701. In fact, there's even one that supports 30-200Hz (the AOC AG352QCX). There's nothing stopping the technology from supporting such ranges. It's entirely down to the monitor manufacturer. Which is both a blessing and a curse, but ultimately not an issue with FreeSync/VESA adaptive sync, and entirely one with the low standards in the monitor industry. Of course, the counterpoint to it is that it's essentially a free addon. Any adaptive sync is better than none, and you're not paying any sort of premium for it with FreeSync/VESA adaptive sync on these cheapo monitors with more limited ranges. If you bought an equivalent cheap monitor with an Nvidia card, you'd have no adaptive sync at all.
The bottom line is that FreeSync/VESA adaptive sync at its best is indistinguishable from G-Sync. They do the same thing just as well. The only difference is that buying one is even more of a minefield, but your reward for taking the time to navigate it is paying a lot less for the same product. Pick your poison I guess.
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I agree, Freesync can be great WHEN it's implemented correctly! It's upto the consumer to do his/her research (or even ask knowledgeable peeps, like on here!) 
Largely - last time I looked at them side by side nVidia still had the edged in cases where applications do weird things with windowed modes and/or borderless fullscreen mode. nVidia has a bit better implementation when handling low framerates but if you are at the point you are dealing with that you likely aren't having a great experience regardless of what variant of adaptive sync you are using.
There are still some cases *when you set things up properly* where on the nVidia side you get lower input latency - Battle(non)sense has a video somewhere with the breakdown. Largely though it isn't different enough to be significant - I notice it in some cases but I've years of stuff like playing Quake 3 at 125fps, etc. behind me so tend to be over sensitive to things more casual gamers won't even notice or be bothered by.
On the other hand nVidia's implementation can have some negative for playing video content, etc. where you might occasionally see some oddities - especially around patches of white colour in motion - which FreeSync I've not seen affected by so far.
Yeah thanks for the info.
From memory, freesync 2 now implements a minimum standard.
My MX34VQ could do 30hz no problem after a CRU fix(not that i wanted to cause sub 50ish hz is dreadful to look at no matter if its Gsync or Freesync due to image persistence). I've had plenty gsync screens that was utter trash due to bad QC so that Gsync badge means absolutely nothing in the end for what kind of experience you are gonna get. Freesync and Gsync does the exactly same in the end. What actually affects your experience is the brand and how/what they choose to do with the hardware. Freesync allows for more freedom which had lead to some pretty **** poor screens when it launched but in the end that doesn't make Freesync worse but instead the specific vendors implementation was pretty poor. That has changed now and you got like 5-6 times the amount of monitors, if not more, to choose from compared to gsync offerings. The first ROG swift (the tn model) was pretty bad, with poor QC and a lot reported the whites showing yellow tints and my sample of it was extremely bad worst monitor i've ever had. Add to that all the bad QC reports on the very expensive IPS 1440p gsync ultrawides(1st gen/wave) and don't even get me started on the acer 2560x1080 selection of gsync monitors using VA panels that simply could not deliver and smeared all over the place(AOCs freesync variant of this had the same problem).
So i guess my TL;DR is: There is no difference in experience when comparing Freesync to Gsync as they can do the same on paper, what matters is the manufacturers implementation and use of hardware.