Handling gurus
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Rear ARB should, assuming its a sizable difference over the standard item.
The strut brace is a bit more debatable. If the rest of the suspension is stiff, it'll help stiffen things up a bit more, but on its own the effect will be much less.
The strut brace is a bit more debatable. If the rest of the suspension is stiff, it'll help stiffen things up a bit more, but on its own the effect will be much less.
Well the rear ARB will differ from the standard item 17mm to 20mm, the car already has trd lowering springs and I am hoping that the lower front strut brace will tie everything up.
Or I am better biting the bullet and buying the more expensive TRD topmounts for all the suspension (front ad rear)? Instead of the front strut.
The ARB should reduce understeer, but depending on how it's set up, may increase the car's tendancy to oversteer or drift (if it's set up in such a way that the weight shifts off one of the back wheels). Not that that's a bad thing (it's one of the behaviours of the Integra type R), but it's just a thing.
A strut brace will make a difference if you're pushing hard enough that flex alters the geometry in hard cornering (by altering the track or wheel angles) but otherwise you'll probably not really notice the difference unless your car is lacking in structural integrity.
It all depends on how hard you regularly drive and what sort of handling you're after.
A strut brace will make a difference if you're pushing hard enough that flex alters the geometry in hard cornering (by altering the track or wheel angles) but otherwise you'll probably not really notice the difference unless your car is lacking in structural integrity.
It all depends on how hard you regularly drive and what sort of handling you're after.
The car is really a weekend car and so gets driven as such, I want a more point and go handling car, at the minute it has a tendancy to understeer and so I want it to stop doing this (be less of a gt car).
The car is really a weekend car and so gets driven as such, I want a more point and go handling car, at the minute it has a tendancy to understeer and so I want it to stop doing this (be less of a gt car).
Sounds like a good plan to go for both then
Sounds like a good plan to go for both then
Cheers which would be better though, replacing the front lower brace or replacing all the topmounts for TRD jobbies?
I like my cars to have a lose arse end, so I always upgrade the rear ARB. I fitted my Scooby with a Whiteline adjustable, and have also done it to both of my Integras. It definately makes a difference, reduces understeer and just makes it more eager to loosen the back end when past the limit of grip. This works great on the Integra as it's very progressive and communicative, but if I'm honest it made the Scoob a bit prone to snap-oversteer.
That's better then understeer though
That's better then understeer though
I like my cars to have a lose arse end, so I always upgrade the rear ARB. I fitted my Scooby with a Whiteline adjustable, and have also done it to both of my Integras. It definately makes a difference, reduces understeer and just makes it more eager to loosen the back end when past the limit of grip. This works great on the Integra as it's very progressive and communicative, but if I'm honest it made the Scoob a bit prone to snap-oversteer.
That's better then understeer though
Cheers Drexel, was waiting for you to come along.
What about the front strut Vs top mount debate.
Being a lower brace, if it's anything like the H-Brace I recently fitted to the 'teg it's a worthwhile mod. It just generally sharpened up the front end, made it feel more responsive and turn-in improved. This was a 4-point under-brace though, a 2-point brace might not make as noticable a difference.
Adjustible top mounts (I assume the TRD items are adjustible?) will give you more options to fine tune your geo, which could make a noticable difference too. Especially if your OE top mounts are worn.
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Adjustible top mounts (I assume the TRD items are adjustible?) will give you more options to fine tune your geo, which could make a noticable difference too. Especially if your OE top mounts are worn.
Do it all
Adjustible top mounts (I assume the TRD items are adjustible?) will give you more options to fine tune your geo, which could make a noticable difference too. Especially if your OE top mounts are worn.
Do it all
No the TRD ones are set and non adjstable, just more heavy duty than standard
In that case, if your current top-mounts are in good condition and you already have an upper strut brace then I would personally think that a lower brace would make more of a difference than TRD topmounts.
Like Dolph said it depends on how hard it gets driven and how much flex the standard structure allows at the bottom.
Like Dolph said it depends on how hard it gets driven and how much flex the standard structure allows at the bottom.
The gt4 has an upper brace as part of the super strut config.
Personally, I'd get the lower strut brace and the rear ARB.
Best of going for things you KNOW will improve performance, rather than getting something that *might* improve things... the topmounts on yours could be just fine.
Generally, they start knocking once they're on the way out.
I wouldn't replace the top mounts unless you were getting adjustables. That way, you can pack on enough camber to make even penski cream himself 
Best of going for things you KNOW will improve performance, rather than getting something that *might* improve things... the topmounts on yours could be just fine.
Generally, they start knocking once they're on the way out.
I wouldn't replace the top mounts unless you were getting adjustables. That way, you can pack on enough camber to make even penski cream himself
It's not bumf necessarily, but it's marketing, and suspension marketing often makes claims that seem true because you're replacing worn componants with new ones. You'd get very similar benefits replacing your existing topmounts with new standard ones. Personally if I was changing topmounts I'd want adjustable ones (camber bolts are a nasty workaround to doing it properly) to get the most benefit from the job.
I wouldn't replace the top mounts unless you were getting adjustables. That way, you can pack on enough camber to make even penski cream himself
I have been advised not to go for the front lower brace as it does not make hardly any difference on these cars and the top mounts will, even if the old ones are ok.
