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Handypeople: Stop gate lifting off hinges

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Tesla, Oct 12, 2009.

  1. Tesla

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jan 19, 2003

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    Location: Bristol, UK

    Hi all,

    We have a small section of 7ft decorative iron fence and a nice iron gate too.

    There was no means of securing the gate, which leads into the back garden so I drilled the latch and put in a padlock. Works perfectly.

    However, the gate could be simply lifted off of it's hinges. The gate is hinged on a wall. On the wall are two vertical pins if you like, on the gate are two loops and these sit on the pins and there you have your hinge.

    So, what is the normal process to secure the gate onto the hinge. I assume I could drill through the hinge and install a pin or such?

    Is there a better way?

    I realise someone could just climb over the gate if they really wanted to.
     
  2. eddiemcgarrigle

    Mobster

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    Thread the pins and simply add a nut to ensure the gate cannot be lifted off.
     
  3. twist3d0n3

    Capodecina

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    Location: Bath, England

    a pin could still be removed

    i'd drill through and put some hefty bolts/nuts on it, and make em tight

    no one would be arsed to get the gate off then :D
     
  4. gurusan

    Capodecina

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    Location: Portland, OR

    yup thread the end of the pins + a nut...or weld a top on the pins
     
  5. metamorphpwner

    Wise Guy

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    turn the top pin over so bottom faces up and top faces down, this way there's no way the gate will come off.
     
  6. mollymoo

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    'tis what i would do
     
  7. Tesla

    Capodecina

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    Genius.

    Such a simple solution.

    Many thanks for the other suggestions too. Think I'll go with this one since I dont have tools to tap a thread onto the hinge part.
     
  8. task

    Wise Guy

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    Location: Derby

    I tack welded a washer onto the top of a pin on my gates.
     
  9. mac1st3

    Mobster

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    if the pin pokes out of the bottom of the hinge, drill through it and put a pin through the pin?
     
  10. WalesOwl

    Hitman

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    Use a hammer on the pins, that will make them fatter at the top and hence the gate will stay on........

    Ofc this may just not work. XD
     
  11. VeNT

    Capodecina

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    Location: Cornwall

    weld it.
     
  12. Berserker

    Man of Honour

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    Would doing it the other way around (top facing up, bottom facing down) be any better/more secure? Don't know - just asking. :)
     
  13. bullit in head

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    dont think it would really make any differance....

    I drilled mine and put a split pin throught it... it was only to stop the casual thief, if they really want it or through it they would.

    bullit
     
  14. cjeasom

    Gangster

    Joined: Oct 29, 2002

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    Location: Land Of Pork Pies!

    Fixings

    If welding is to much hassle fit an M8 T bolts & Permacone to one of the hinges. Its a security snap off bolt which cannot easily be removed!
     
  15. metamorphpwner

    Wise Guy

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    the one facing upwareds would be taking most of the weight whereas the one facing down is just holding the gate in place. top taking the weight, the gate is pulling its weight on the top away from the wall. if the bottom takes the weight it's getting pushes towards the wall so can't go anywere. should be more secure.
     
  16. Sparky__H

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    Edit - Ignore
     
  17. Skii

    Mobster

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    Just screw a block of wood or a small object onto the post above the upper hinge to prevent the gate being lifted upwards.
     
  18. bullit in head

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    would make no differance....the forces would be the same...



    bullit
     
  19. Tesla

    Capodecina

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    I'm back, I made a mistake. The bracket on the gate are the pins and the plates on the wall are the loops.

    The only way I could alter the gate would be to have the pins re-welded.

    The gate only has to be lifted around 10mm and it can be opened. That's not even off of the hinge.

    Do you think the split-pin solution would be best?
     


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