Hard Slam! (courtesy of Retro Rides...)

[penski]

I have to say that I'm not a fan of US-style VIP as I find it rather brash.

I much prefer Jap-style and absolutely love it clean and Euro like that A8.

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[penski]

That looks much better.... than poverty spec, with old mercedes alloys.

Quite how you can call a 4.2 litre Audi V8 'poverty spec' is beyond me...that's like calling an S-class a base model.

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[penski]

Braking would cause it to bottom out(Estima)

*whispers*

Its on air

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PS: "Hard Slam" refers to going low without 'cheating' by using air or juice

 

[penski]

it looks pretty cool but totally undriveable i bet..

my red mx5 was as low as that when i first got it and i kid you not i actually
got beached on the camber of the road a fair few times...

i went camping in it with r220 and we had to leave the car in some random village as it got stuck on the camber.

speed humps well.. i had to avoid complete areas of the town and plan my route to make sure i wouldnt get stuck again.

wheels suit it well.

He had the same problem with camber and cats eyes until he raised it an inch :/

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[penski]

I thought they were coilovers though.

Keep up at the back.

We're talking about the Estima that Drexel posted. not the 'poverty spec' ( ) A8.

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[penski]

I dont get why people are going on about the height so much and it being unusable. It barely looks any lower than the standard S8 posted by Fox to me :/

Compare that with the pics in the OP.

The S8 cheats. Bodykits can make a car look lower than it actually is.

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[penski]

(*ps. its too low for a daily driver tbh)

Doesn't the fact that it is a daily driver mean that it isn't ?

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[penski]

I like the wheels on it but an A8 doesnt seem to look right when its that low :|

Looks like its broken or something lol

Broken? :/

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[penski]

From Stu on RR:

First off your A8 is Awsome imo

Secondly I've just read the complete "overclockers" thread and I have a few points I'd like to make...

1: A8s were not and never have been wallowy as standard, read any contempery road tests and they were always praised or critised (depending on reviewer) for the great roadholding at the expence of comfort (in comparison to mercedes, BMWs, Jags and Lexi of the day )

2: The last of the A8s came from the factory on 20" rims so VIPs choice are not much bigger than standard.

3: If you're in the know, the 2WD 4.2 sport is one of the best choices available, You may loose a bit of traction but you gain some power due to the lack of 4WD, running costs are less with lesss strain on the Bushes and less parts to go wrong and you also gain some nimbleness due to a severe loss of weight.

4: Audi/ VW suspension arms wear out all the time without mods and when lowered with quality dampers the strain on componants can actually be reduced by the damper doing its job properly.

5: People who drive a properly low car read the road well in advance and tend to be much safer as they are not speeding through residential areas.

These opionions are solely mine but I do have quite a bit of experiance as an Audi tech for seven years when mk1 A8s were new, I also drove loads of S8s and several modified examples of both and I would have one anyday of the week over any other luxury barge.

BTW Hard slam is superb but after driving for three years with 10mm ground clearance I've finally sucumbed to air

Some quite interesting points...

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[penski]

No can do atm.

Try searching youtube for hoodride type 3...I know it will be one of the results for hoodride by itself.

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[penski]

Upon request:
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Penski can you please forward this ;D

Where did they come from? Ladybird book of cars? A8 criticise for superior road holding against comfort in comparison to BMW 7 Series?

Yes the A8 has superior road holding when compared to a 7 series (it is 4WD afterall!)
Please don't fall into the trap of confusing "Roadholding" and "Handling" as they are two quite different things entirely :

Don't be so utterly ridiculous. Alloy wheels which require 30 profile tyres or lower are not the 'perfect' size for a large luxury saloon focused on comfort over handling.

My comment was aimed at the above quote and was supposed to highlight that out of all the "luxo barges" of that period the A8 has always had the firmist ride and was often critised for it by magazines such as Autocar etc so it wasn't "Comfort oriantated", regardless of Handling".
Where VIP has gone with his isn't as far removed had he chose to carry out the same mods to a Merc' or Jaguar for example.

People with a "properly low car" are better drivers than those without a lowered car then?

Please don't twist my words I made no such claim! I was mearly pointing out that you have to drive very sensibly when your car is very unsensible! especialy on the U.Ks crap roads, besides Sweeping generalisations are not my thing at all!
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[penski]

lol i like it and that saxo looks mint

ow am 16 and i like modded car's
30mm thats nothing..
they is three gt5 turbo's going around here lower then that

Got proof?

Safe bet that all of them have their sills 6" from the ground and a bodged-on Laguna splitter scraping it at the front.

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[penski]

At the end of the day coming on here you can't change someone's opinion on aesthetics by telling us about dampers and whatnot

Did you read his post?

He categorically stated that he wasn't trying to change anyone's opinion and that he just wanted to correct some incorrect statements...

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[penski]

Get a room, you two...

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[penski]

Dunno why I didn't mention this earlier but VIP also owns (amongst other cars) a 1979 Oldsmobile Cutlass 5.0 Supreme

Mmmmm...

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