Have you tried undervolting? I've read about people getting good results on the 5900X, I've got a - 30 offset on my 5800X3D and it makes a healthy difference.
Has anyone else given up on AIO's
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Have you tried undervolting? I've read about people getting good results on the 5900X, I've got a - 30 offset on my 5800X3D and it makes a healthy difference.
AIO's don't fail very often, and when they do it's usually the pump that fails from one of several possible reasons .. but sometimes the develop a leak
While AIO don't fail very often, they do fail way more often then air coolers.
If an air cooler fails the worst that can happen is computer gets hot and shuts itself down possible damaging whatever is being processed.
If a AIO fails and it's just pump failure than system just shuts down when it overheats, but if it's a leak it can (and often does) drip into electronics (like GPU from CPU above it) killing it when it shorts out.
Some will say damages are covered under warrantee. Problems are multiple from first even getting a reply from company, then trying to prove to them it was their products fault, than trying to collect. As often as not they won't answer, or want everything shipped to them (at owners expense) for them to analyse, then usually say it's not their fault and want you to pay to get your stuff back. Even if they do admit fault the usually only pay a fraction of cost of replacement By this time your system has been down for several months and you've likely already bought new bits and pieces.
But with air cooling about the only thing that can fail is fans, and they usually make plenty of noise for us to know we need to replace them before they actually die. Even if cooler only has one and it dies, we can use almost any fan until proper replacement is in hand.
Sure, occasionally TIM can pump out and/or dry out, but again we can see thing are getting warmer and warmer long before they get too hot.
Long story short.
If new builds get to the point of needed more cooling than air cooler do (and I don't expect that to happen), I'll do like I did 20+ years ago and use custom component loops. then we had t make our own waterblocks, use car radiators and aquarium pumps. Not we can buy everything off the shelf, just cost way more money than air cooling and takes way more time to build, install and maintain.
While AIO don't fail very often, they do fail way more often then air coolers.
If an air cooler fails the worst that can happen is computer gets hot and shuts itself down possible damaging whatever is being processed.
If a AIO fails and it's just pump failure than system just shuts down when it overheats, but if it's a leak it can (and often does) drip into electronics (like GPU from CPU above it) killing it when it shorts out.
Some will say damages are covered under warrantee. Problems are multiple from first even getting a reply from company, then trying to prove to them it was their products fault, than trying to collect. As often as not they won't answer, or want everything shipped to them (at owners expense) for them to analyse, then usually say it's not their fault and want you to pay to get your stuff back. Even if they do admit fault the usually only pay a fraction of cost of replacement By this time your system has been down for several months and you've likely already bought new bits and pieces.
But with air cooling about the only thing that can fail is fans, and they usually make plenty of noise for us to know we need to replace them before they actually die. Even if cooler only has one and it dies, we can use almost any fan until proper replacement is in hand.
Sure, occasionally TIM can pump out and/or dry out, but again we can see thing are getting warmer and warmer long before they get too hot.
Long story short.
AIOs cost much more than air coolers
AIOs have much higher chance of failing
AIOs have much higher chance of damaging components
AIOs can fail with little to no warning.
And they only cool slightly better than air when new, loosing the difference as pump wears.
So I'm going to continue using air coolers and don't even look at AIO. If new builds get to the point of needed more cooling than air cooler do (and I don't expect that to happen), I'll do like I did 20+ years ago and use custom component loops. then we had t make our own waterblocks, use car radiators and aquarium pumps. Not we can buy everything off the shelf, just cost way more money than air cooling and takes way more time to build, install and maintain.
Yes i have an -15 on all cores. I did try using the optimiser, it said -30 on all cores. The PC would not boot
I think its the games i play. Well game. It is single core, so it pushes one core to the max, which means it boosts, and gets hot. if it would use 1/12 of each 12 cores (or 1/6 of 6), it might be better. Maybe i should have gone for that 5700X3D, but i could not handle the lower frequencies compared with 3800X... doh! (maybe)
Yes i have an -15 on all cores. I did try using the optimiser, it said -30 on all cores. The PC would not boot
I think its the games i play. Well game. It is single core, so it pushes one core to the max, which means it boosts, and gets hot. if it would use 1/12 of each 12 cores (or 1/6 of 6), it might be better. Maybe i should have gone for that 5700X3D, but i could not handle the lower frequencies compared with 3800X... doh! (maybe)
While it doesn't clock as high the 5700X3D still benefits from IPC uplift over the previous generation, tbh you probably wouldn't have noticed a difference in that regard in actual usage.
The 5900X is definitely the better choice if you do something which can make use of all those cores, certain workloads etc.
Hi guys it looks like i might have to replace my AIO so im looking for a good air cooler for my 7800X3D.
Would this thermalight peerless assassin do the job?
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Would this thermalight peerless assassin do the job?
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Very good, I have one on a 5800X3D.Hi guys it looks like i might have to replace my AIO so im looking for a good air cooler for my 7800X3D.
Would this thermalight peerless assassin do the job?
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It's about as good as it gets .. and costs less than 1/4rd as much as baby poo competition (£29.99 versus £127.99).Hi guys it looks like i might have to replace my AIO so im looking for a good air cooler for my 7800X3D.
Would this thermalight peerless assassin do the job?
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Shop around, PA120SE cooler aluminum color (has black top) and PA120SE Black are £29.99 preorder here but available elsewhere.
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Peerless assassin/phantom spirit are well recommended for near top performance in terms of air cooling whilst being more towards the budget end of the price range.
Yes, you should be able to install it without removing motherboard. I suggest doing a 'dry run' before applying TIM to be sure everything fits right and to familiarize yourself so when you mount it with TIM you know exactly where to set it and start screws.
as long as you can see the back of your motherboard your good. its an easy cooler to fit
best thing i ever got was a 300mm screwdriver from Halfords, had it about 11 years still like new.
make getting into your case screws very easy
Indeed! Anyone who works/plays with computers needs a long shank Philips bit screwdriver, at least 6" / 150mm shank plus handle.
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Ditched my AIO for a Noctua D15. All is well (though, the Ryzen 5 3600 beast I'm rocking isn't particularly demanding)
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Maybe I've just been lucky but I've never had any leaks or pump failures in 10 years of using AIO's. I've used high end ones on builds and cheap as chips ones, only issues with the cheaper ones is the pumps are noisier.
Currently running a Corsair titan 360mm and the majority of the time (unless I'm gaming) the fans are on zero rpm mode - Super cool and quiet, pump is inaudible too.
Air cooling just looks terrible IMO, all those lovely shiny components followed by a large finned square half the size of the case bolted on, looks ridiculous
Currently running a Corsair titan 360mm and the majority of the time (unless I'm gaming) the fans are on zero rpm mode - Super cool and quiet, pump is inaudible too.
Air cooling just looks terrible IMO, all those lovely shiny components followed by a large finned square half the size of the case bolted on, looks ridiculous
I went Air to AIO when they first came out.
Then went to custom W/C, back to AIO and now back on all Air again.
It's a combination of Air being less hassle/noise and also because I fancied a change. With coolers like the NH-D15 it's less of a benefit than the early switch to AIO.
I'm sure I'll switch again to something else at some point, it's fun to try out different tech, although the older I get, the more I just want something that works.
Really don't like the new AIO fad of huge screens though. A small liquid temp reading within the block I get, but some look like a phone hanging from the block!
Then went to custom W/C, back to AIO and now back on all Air again.
It's a combination of Air being less hassle/noise and also because I fancied a change. With coolers like the NH-D15 it's less of a benefit than the early switch to AIO.
I'm sure I'll switch again to something else at some point, it's fun to try out different tech, although the older I get, the more I just want something that works.
Really don't like the new AIO fad of huge screens though. A small liquid temp reading within the block I get, but some look like a phone hanging from the block!
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Just switched back to air cooling after my Corsair H80i failed by dripping coolant down the motherboard and onto the PCI-E slot and further below. Very slow leak - may have been the cause of recent OS freezes, we'll see!
In its defense, I bought it in 2016 or thereabouts, it had a good run and at least didn't fail spectacularly.
In its defense, I bought it in 2016 or thereabouts, it had a good run and at least didn't fail spectacularly.
you just saved me a lot of money think I wil got with the assassin for the 7700 when it arives
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The assassin should cool your 7700 no problem and with a quiet fan curve too.
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