Has the PS3 flopped?

[Demon]

but surely its based on the same principle that a movement can be translated into an in game action ?

Essentially yes, but it's the range of motion that makes the Wii remote so good, you can use it like a golf club/tennis racquet, and even exaggerate bowling movements etc.. the size axis is just a rubbish extension of a normal pad.. I say rubbish, but that's just in games I've tried it in, like motorstorm, I tried it, and turned it off after 20 mins of frustration...

 

[Bigpig]

In before the lock

Anyone got popcorn this is getting good

 

[Darkaber]

Essentially yes, but it's the range of motion that makes the Wii remote so good, you can use it like a golf club/tennis racquet, and even exaggerate bowling movements etc.. the size axis is just a rubbish extension of a normal pad.. I say rubbish, but that's just in games I've tried it in, like motorstorm, I tried it, and turned it off after 20 mins of frustration...

Agreed the axis is rubbish in motorstorm i allways have it off

Iv not tryied it on F1 yet tho

 

[Wang Computer]

It's never likely to flop - the Playstation brand simply holds too much weight. Whether it reaches the height of success of its predecessors is another matter entirely.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

I don't understand how the six axis could effectively be used as a steering control, there's not really a point of reference to centre it back up so it would surely be difficult to straighten yourself up after a corner?

 

[t@xman]

Which is a logicial step for games. Instead of buttons replicating movement. Movement replicates movement.

Which makes it all the more bizarre that m$ had this technology in the home about 10 years ago, but abandoned it as nothing more than a gimmick! I remember at the time buying one with a free dirtbike game, and thinking WOW, but then a couple of weeks later going Meh!
In fact, it could be argued that both Sony and Nintendo ripped off the old m$ Sidewinder freestyle pro controller, but I have no doubt that similar existed well before that!

 

[Nzyme]

Essentially yes, but it's the range of motion that makes the Wii remote so good, you can use it like a golf club/tennis racquet, and even exaggerate bowling movements etc.. the size axis is just a rubbish extension of a normal pad.. I say rubbish, but that's just in games I've tried it in, like motorstorm, I tried it, and turned it off after 20 mins of frustration...

so its just the same thing but not as involved ? so why do all the playstation fan boys rip into the wii remote then ?

 

[Nzyme]

Which makes it all the more bizarre that m$ had this technology in the home about 10 years ago, but abandoned it as nothing more than a gimmick! I remember at the time buying one with a free dirtbike game, and thinking WOW, but then a couple of weeks later going Meh!
In fact, it could be argued that both Sony and Nintendo ripped off the old m$ Sidewinder freestyle pro controller, but I have no doubt that similar existed well before that!

its definatly not new technology its surely jsut down to the wya its implemented that will make it a success or a failure ?

 

[t@xman]

If you look at the original articles referring to 6 million consoles it meant shipped, the problem with this shipped business is that sometimes companies use shipped as meaning sold and sometimes they mean shipped as shipped!
I think with this article some sites has this as meaning shipped and some sites have it as sold.

Whether it meant shipped or sold is irrelevant! The fact remains that over half of all PS3's made are not in peoples homes, but stuck at some point in the retail chain.
I'm not dissing PS3, as I think it's a fine machine, but some seem to have their head stuck firmly in the sand if they honestly think it's been a success (so far). However, I have no doubt that once some of the big franchises start to emerge, and once Sony themselves release some 1st party games that actually use the hardware, then this may well turn around.........but I can't help thinking that a price cut may be needed as a catalyst for improved sales (as I believe the competition this time is the fiercest and strongest Sony have ever faced).

 

[KNiVES]

Just a small note



'Casual gamers' won't buy a 425 pound console

And kids won't have much chance asking for a 425 pound console for christmas either


This isn't some 300 pound console anymore, it's a small remortgage's worth of hardware that isn't even comparable to the competition right now. There is a reason why it's not exactly selling like hot cakes. When I bought my PS3, I inadvertently starved myself for a few weeks without realizing it

 

[t@xman]

its definatly not new technology its surely jsut down to the wya its implemented that will make it a success or a failure ?

Well, I look over into my games room and I see Maraca's, Bongo's, a fishing rod, golf club and various other "alternative" control methods, and every single one has had a limited lifespan. Perhaps the Wii will be different, but to me it just screams "GIMMICK" all over again. Having said that, I do think that Nintendo themselves have been quite good at exploiting it so far, but every 2nd or 3rd party developer seems to be somewhat stumped by it.

 

[JUMPURS]

Just a small note

'Casual gamers' won't buy a 425 pound console

And kids won't have much chance asking for a 425 pound console for christmas either


This isn't some 300 pound console anymore, it's a small remortgage's worth of hardware that isn't even comparable to the competition right now. There is a reason why it's not exactly selling like hot cakes. When I bought my PS3, I inadvertently starved myself for a few weeks without realizing it

Well 400 quid was spent by plenty about 10 - 15 years ago on the Amiga, so in relative costs it would be cheaper than that.

and at the same time the Atari ST was 300, but the Amiga still spanked it.

 

[KNiVES]

I don't see PS3 spanking the 360 or Wii, though. And there's inflation, as well. 10-15 years ago, it was easier to spend 400 quid or so. Now in today's society where everyone is being ripped off left and right, where mortgages, bills and taxes are stupidly higher than the last few decades, it's not exactly like you'll see children walking into the shops, asking for a PS3 in shrill voices and then handing over nearly half a grand for it.

 

[Margaret]

Flopped is too strong, but it ain't lived up to the hype that's all that needs to be said.

 

[Bigpig]

To Early to call it a flop. PS2 bad start big price tag.
The war will only start this Xmas for all 3 consoles.
They have all got a good foothold should be interesting

 

[Abooie]

Well 400 quid was spent by plenty about 10 - 15 years ago on the Amiga, so in relative costs it would be cheaper than that.

and at the same time the Atari ST was 300, but the Amiga still spanked it.

Aye, but the Amiga was better.

 

[Cartho]

The fact is, why buy a PS3 at the moment?
The Xbox 360 has just as good (if not better in many games) graphics, costs LOADS less money even than the BASIC PS3 system and has a large and excellent range of games. PS3 has vey few games, none of which I would call classics.
I played Motorstorm in a store for a bit and was considerably unimpressed. RFOM is poor to be honest, and it has nothing to match the mighty Gears of War.

By the way if you dont believe me on the graphics point, compare the 360 and PS3 versions of FEAR - PS3 version looks washed out and poor in comparison.

Also look at the 2 versions of Call of Duty 3. Ps3 version has considerably lower res and more blurry textures compared to the Xbox 360 version.
It is PS3's price which is killing it, that and the lack of any really good quality games. It can't even rely on GTA IV to boost its sales now, because that is coming out on 360 as well, at the same time - no one who is saving up for a next gen console to play GTA IV is going to buy the more expensive PS3 to play it on.

Maybe when some of the Playstation heavywieghts start to arrive, like Metal Gear Solid and Killzone, perhaps then it will pick up. However there are no games coming out on PS3 that I have heard of which make me think "my god I need one of those"

Even stuff like Killzone - 360 has Halo 3, which will probably be just as good....

 

[james.miller]

Well 400 quid was spent by plenty about 10 - 15 years ago on the Amiga, so in relative costs it would be cheaper than that.

and at the same time the Atari ST was 300, but the Amiga still spanked it.

just out of interest what were the sales of the amiga's? because it certainly was never marketed as a games machine for the masses. it was a personal computer than could play games, more buisness orientated like the atari st was. im guessing thats why the peopel that did buy it didnt mind the price tag.

 

[JUMPURS]

Aye, but the Amiga was better.

Yeah, and your point being?

 

[KNiVES]

I still have the desire to stab people in the face over the internet who even considers Killzone a 'heavyweight' game . The first one sucked. The PSP game sucked. The sequel trailer was a hoax.